Jason

Understand looking forward is most important.

But I got I got to go one more time in the review mirror here, which is Kamala Harris was picked because Biden had put out a criteria.

Hey, I want to have a woman of color as my vice president.

He was very explicit about that.

She could be qualified, unqualified, moderately qualified.

But then when she went out to pick her VP, everybody was saying, hey, Josh Shapiro should be really in that running.

And she didn't pick you specifically because she didn't think she could win with the Jewish vice president.

Really?

Sincerely?

Yes.

Because it did seem like you wanted to be considered for that VP position.

All right.

So let's move forward then looking at winning.

You're going to run for governor again.

Assume that's going to be a shoe in.

You know, you got to do the work, but it's pretty clear.

No, it's it's clear.

But let's talk a little bit about if you were to run for president, which people seem to think you've got a really good shot.

But you're below maybe national recognition right now.

We're a little bit far behind.