Jason

Gavin has come out.

Hey, I'm running.

I'm running.

Here I am.

He's obviously in the poll position for now.

I want to understand the Democratic Party and how they should proceed, because just like the right seemed to separate and you had this MAGA coalition and you had, you know, the traditional Republicans who were just aghast at Trump and his style and his behavior, etc.,

Now that seems to have fractured again.

You have America first, America only.

All the supporters who were supporting Trump now have come out vocally against him because of the war in Iran.

And then you have on your side, the socialist Democrat movement, which I think a lot of moderates are like, well, that's confusing.

We don't want to have

More Mondamis, and that doesn't seem super appealing to a lot of moderates.

And the moderates are the ones who flipped this election, and they went, the last election, they went with Trump, largely, as opposed to going with Kamala.

So handicap, for me, what has to happen in the Democratic Party to win in 2028?

So 26 is certainly going to be a referendum on the first two years of this presidency, which was extremely popular for the first nine months or so.

People felt really good about the economy.

Some people.

And that, well, I think his polling was great.

But there was this tinge, I think it's pretty accurate to say the tariffs felt like those were chaotic.

Then you get the ICE situation.