Javier Moro

Y luego la jueza.

La Susana, sí.

Susana Barrientos.

Barreiros.

Barreiros.

A mí lo que me interesaba mucho también de Rosamelia es que representa el chavista desengañado.

Porque yo creo que hay mucha gente que creyó honestamente en la revolución, en mejorar la vida de la gente, que creyó el discurso de Chávez al principio y tal, pero que luego, oye...

Like all these utopias, when they are put into practice, they turn the paradise they promise into an unbearable hell, which is what has happened.

So there are many who I believe have been chavistas, but who don't dare to show that they no longer are.

Because there is no chavismo anymore, there is no ideology.

Now it's a bunch of whores who have kidnapped a country.

They are criminals, their heads are at a price.

It's no longer a problem of ideology.

And many have left that because there is no way... The dictatorship has that power of perversion, of perverting people, of really destroying the morality of a country through...

de la moral de su población, de su gente.

Y eso se ve en el libro, yo creo.

There was a Venezuelan journalist who had the idea when Franklin Nieves left, Franklin Nieves was the prosecutor who carried the case, and he was an inquisitor during the trial, according to Juan Carlos Gutiérrez, the lawyer of...

When Leo left and escaped to the United States, a journalist contacted Leo in jail, with Leo's father in Mexico and with Leo's mother in Madrid at the time.

They hadn't spoken to each other.

How would they react to Franklin Nieves?