Jay Ackerman

And-

And when I came in 16 and 17, we were playing kind of defensive, a defensive game, shoring up the foundation of the company.

And now we've got a lot of momentum behind us and we want to be much more aggressive.

And we think there's an opportunity to.

to, to move faster.

And, um, and one of the, you know, with the new investors we're bringing on, we have a lot of support to, to build something large and impactful in the healthcare space.

Uh, you know, so typical kind of like I look at typical cap raise kind of, you know, 20, 20, 30%.

Okay.

Got it.

It depends on, you know, it depends on the day.

But, you know, we wouldn't be taking that money in if we didn't think we had the right, you know, the right valuation and the right relationship.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I asked my wife that question, but, um, you know, I, I, uh, I was an executive in a publicly traded company and, um, I really want, uh, I was, uh, most recently guidance software, which is in the endpoint security space.

I was chief revenue officer, um,

I wanted the opportunity to lead a company.

I thought there was a good fit here with what Revelier was up to and was happy to take a really significant cut in W2 compensation for equity.

You know, with our key investors, upfront ventures, you know, key player in Southern California.

And we work to ensure my, you know, my stake was aligned with theirs.

So, you know, heavily equity laden, you know, relationship.