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Jay Edelson

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The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Backtracks on Grace For Charlie Kirk, and Dangers of ChatGPT, with Rich Lowry, and Adam Raine's Parents | Ep. 1182

always validate that feeling, no matter how crazy it was with Adam.

The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Backtracks on Grace For Charlie Kirk, and Dangers of ChatGPT, with Rich Lowry, and Adam Raine's Parents | Ep. 1182

It would validate it, support it, offer to show him books or songs that are consistent with it, and then keep him engaged with that topic.

The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Backtracks on Grace For Charlie Kirk, and Dangers of ChatGPT, with Rich Lowry, and Adam Raine's Parents | Ep. 1182

So you see this sort of escalation over a few-month period.

The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Backtracks on Grace For Charlie Kirk, and Dangers of ChatGPT, with Rich Lowry, and Adam Raine's Parents | Ep. 1182

His final month was all about suicide methods, and every alarm bell should have been going off.

The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Backtracks on Grace For Charlie Kirk, and Dangers of ChatGPT, with Rich Lowry, and Adam Raine's Parents | Ep. 1182

But the two or three months prior to that is this slow sort of grooming.

The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Backtracks on Grace For Charlie Kirk, and Dangers of ChatGPT, with Rich Lowry, and Adam Raine's Parents | Ep. 1182

Adam would say things like, I want to maybe do this on the first day of school, and I would talk about how poetic that is, and let's plan this together.

The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Backtracks on Grace For Charlie Kirk, and Dangers of ChatGPT, with Rich Lowry, and Adam Raine's Parents | Ep. 1182

These sorts of things, I see the beauty of why you would want to do that.

The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Backtracks on Grace For Charlie Kirk, and Dangers of ChatGPT, with Rich Lowry, and Adam Raine's Parents | Ep. 1182

Just paraphrasing, but that went on through dozens of exchanges where it's sort of validating and seeking to keep him talking about it, no matter how crazy his...

The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Backtracks on Grace For Charlie Kirk, and Dangers of ChatGPT, with Rich Lowry, and Adam Raine's Parents | Ep. 1182

you know, ideas became.

The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Backtracks on Grace For Charlie Kirk, and Dangers of ChatGPT, with Rich Lowry, and Adam Raine's Parents | Ep. 1182

They were always right, and it would smartly validate.

The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Backtracks on Grace For Charlie Kirk, and Dangers of ChatGPT, with Rich Lowry, and Adam Raine's Parents | Ep. 1182

He should not be leading any company with this much power.

The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Backtracks on Grace For Charlie Kirk, and Dangers of ChatGPT, with Rich Lowry, and Adam Raine's Parents | Ep. 1182

No, not.

The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Backtracks on Grace For Charlie Kirk, and Dangers of ChatGPT, with Rich Lowry, and Adam Raine's Parents | Ep. 1182

Directly or indirectly or indirectly.

The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Backtracks on Grace For Charlie Kirk, and Dangers of ChatGPT, with Rich Lowry, and Adam Raine's Parents | Ep. 1182

You know, um,

The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Backtracks on Grace For Charlie Kirk, and Dangers of ChatGPT, with Rich Lowry, and Adam Raine's Parents | Ep. 1182

This started not as an idea of a lawsuit.

The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Backtracks on Grace For Charlie Kirk, and Dangers of ChatGPT, with Rich Lowry, and Adam Raine's Parents | Ep. 1182

We had no idea it would head in that direction.

The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Backtracks on Grace For Charlie Kirk, and Dangers of ChatGPT, with Rich Lowry, and Adam Raine's Parents | Ep. 1182

But as we got in and saw his chats, we didn't know, as I was saying earlier, right?

The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Backtracks on Grace For Charlie Kirk, and Dangers of ChatGPT, with Rich Lowry, and Adam Raine's Parents | Ep. 1182

The chat GBT would talk in this human-like way, the nature of which it would say such scary things.

The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Backtracks on Grace For Charlie Kirk, and Dangers of ChatGPT, with Rich Lowry, and Adam Raine's Parents | Ep. 1182

So our original goal with this whole thing has been to educate as many parents, mentors as possible about the dangers of

The Megyn Kelly Show
Newsom Backtracks on Grace For Charlie Kirk, and Dangers of ChatGPT, with Rich Lowry, and Adam Raine's Parents | Ep. 1182

ChatGBT specifically, and I'd say AI companionship more broadly, but ChatGBT, to Jay's point, is the worst we're aware of.