Jay Jack

Yeah.

Need for the dog, but not see the dog and then be scared or intimidated by what they have.

I need them to see the dog and fall in love with that dog for what it is.

And then here's the place where you put it.

Now that you know what you have and you love it and you realize how important it is to give it a place to put that thing, dude, here's a place to put it, you know?

It's like 50-50, honestly.

it's the weirdest I'm going to have to knock on wood because after I say this, it's going to all fucking fall apart.

It's going to fall apart.

But like right now people tolerate each other pretty good in the sport itself.

So like on the field, like when you, when you're trialing buckle collar.

Sure.

But that's not a stand on tool usage at all.

And I think people don't realize, I think the people in the purely positive world that aren't associated with drive sports, that aren't associated with protection sports, when they see me saying like, no tools in a trial, flat buckle collar only.

And they're like, oh, this guy must be, like, I think they kind of think,

the sport is like anti-tool.

I don't think they realize that in PSA, you're naked in fucking... I don't think they realize that people aren't walking onto the field in competitions with e-collars and prong collars.

Like, you can't wear a training collar in any fucking sport.

You know what I mean?

You can't do that at all.

Yes.