Jay Jack

And they're like, I have no idea.

And I'll ask the audience.

They'll go, she wanted a box.

Yeah.

And you're like, what?

I can't see it.

And I'll be like, look, this is how your dogs feel when you're trying to play with them.

So like, if you didn't know any better, this person, if this person was a dog trainer trying to play with this person, you would diagnose that dog as low drive, not motivated to play.

Like they have low play drive.

You're like, get out of your fucking mind.

You just make no sense.

They can't see your objective.

I really like it.

know like graduation time when students come we we have a night that we just go crazy with so many cool games this is becoming and definitely a game definitely but it gives people a visceral feel of this is what your dog feels when you're trying to force a game on it that it's not understanding and you're and it's trying to show you the game it wants to play and you're not seeing it

Like, that's the feeling that you give them.

But then somebody would literally go, well, that dog's not going to play.

That dog doesn't want to play.

And you're like, man, that's a crazy misdiagnosis to then train that dog with nothing but negative reinforcement.

It's not play-based.

That's crazy.