Jay Shetty

So the routine tasks, the order taking tasks.

What employee programs, well-being programs actually helped?

Because I think the challenge is there's so many well-being programs now.

Every company is subscribed to a million of them.

They're all available, but the actual take-up is low.

Exactly.

Or people don't know what to do or people don't know what's available to them.

So what actually helped versus what people thought would help?

I wanted to ask you a question about page 124 of your book, Figure 6-2.

You talk about the determinants of work well-being, what people think versus reality.

Walk us through what we think makes a workplace have better well-being versus what actually makes a difference.

Wow, do you have a best friend at work?

Exactly.

That's so good.

There's two things there that stood out to me.

One is when you realize that you need a best friend at work, one of the biggest challenges I find is versus you said flexibility and money, which are both important, as you said.

Flexibility means working from home.

Friendship generally means being in person.

And now with more people working from home,

versus being in person, it's harder to have a best friend on Zoom.