Jay Shetty

Yes, I remember reading, Salim Ismail wrote this book called Exponential Organizations.

And it was in the early days of the rise of Uber, the rise of Airbnb.

And he was talking about how Airbnb in its first five years or 10 years had access to more real estate than hotel brands that had been around for 50 years, to your point.

Or Uber had access to more taxis and drivers than taxi companies had for decades.

And it was like instantly...

You have this get up and go attitude.

What's been able to knock you down?

Yeah.

Wow.

Where did you start?

I mean, that sounds like the most difficult and at the same time, as you said, planted moment where like you're literally going through this moment where you're stripping away, changing everything, which is so unsettling to the identity because you're like, wait, my self-worth was I was married.

My self-worth was I was a successful entrepreneur.

My self-worth was maybe I'd be a mom one day or, you know, whatever.

And then all of a sudden all of that's changed because you got to shift.

And so you're like, well, who am I now?

Yeah.

Well, you kept mentioning destiny earlier as well.

And I was thinking that, you know, when you think about depression and destiny, it's interesting that you've had those points in your life where you've also been able to trace, oh, that was destiny or that was destiny.

I connected that.

And it's interesting that sometimes the unlock to those are in your lowest moments, like the unlock of that destiny, the unlock of that growth.