Jay Shetty

And then when I went through pain, I was like, oh, got it.

Like he was so right that it was, it was pain that was the doorway to my potential.

I didn't even know that I had a gear seven that I could lock into when I was in pain.

And it's,

And it's amazing because you think about it and you go, yeah, I thought I was going to break in that moment.

And that break was my breakthrough.

Like that moment that I thought everything was going to fall apart.

That was the moment where everything start after change, after shift, not in a magical transcendental way, but in a way of like turning it around.

Did you ever feel underestimated as a woman in business?

And how did the infertility play into that world as well?

Because I know there's so much judgment and shame and guilt around that, both in our culture, both just in society in general.

I think you just hit the nail on the head that we're all going through things, but it's how we talk to ourself when we're going through those things that makes all the difference.

Yeah, because everyone we know in the world is going through something.

And it's how they talk to themselves about it that makes all the impact, makes all the difference.

And

I absolutely agree.

To me, it's one of the most important skills is being able to talk to yourself in a way that pushes you forward and keeps you grounded without overhyping yourself, but hurting yourself.

And I think we kind of only know how to do both.

Like, I can't know how to hype myself up before this meeting.

Or I need to hurt myself when I'm doing something wrong and we don't know how to help ourselves and actually have this healthy inner dialogue, which is healing conversation and compassionate and empathetic and connected.