Jay Young

Thanks for having me.

Thanks for having me.

Let me take you back to February of 2019. Michael Cochran suddenly becomes ill. He collapses at his home. And from all accounts, he is having a seizure. Ultimately, they get Michael to a hospital. Michael is subjected to a battery test. They are able to determine that he is hypoglycemic, which means his blood sugar levels are very low, dangerously low.

Let me take you back to February of 2019. Michael Cochran suddenly becomes ill. He collapses at his home. And from all accounts, he is having a seizure. Ultimately, they get Michael to a hospital. Michael is subjected to a battery test. They are able to determine that he is hypoglycemic, which means his blood sugar levels are very low, dangerously low.

And then five days later, after he is sent to a hospice, he tragically dies.

And then five days later, after he is sent to a hospice, he tragically dies.

Yeah. The medical examiner ruled the cause of death was natural.

Yeah. The medical examiner ruled the cause of death was natural.

people start to scratch their heads a little bit about Michael's death. Michael was 38 years old and he was in pretty good shape. And unrelated to Michael's death, investigators are getting wind of some problems that are associated with Michael and Natalie's business. Investors are starting to complain a little bit, wondering what's happening to their investments.

people start to scratch their heads a little bit about Michael's death. Michael was 38 years old and he was in pretty good shape. And unrelated to Michael's death, investigators are getting wind of some problems that are associated with Michael and Natalie's business. Investors are starting to complain a little bit, wondering what's happening to their investments.

And so authorities, they start looking into this business. and then ultimately get a search warrant to search Michael and Natalie's house. And what they find was a vial of insulin in the kitchen refrigerator. And ultimately, investigators come up with a theory. Natalie poisoned Michael with insulin. Natalie was concerned that Michael had discovered

And so authorities, they start looking into this business. and then ultimately get a search warrant to search Michael and Natalie's house. And what they find was a vial of insulin in the kitchen refrigerator. And ultimately, investigators come up with a theory. Natalie poisoned Michael with insulin. Natalie was concerned that Michael had discovered

that the company was actually a fraud, was a Ponzi scheme. And Natalie was concerned Michael was going to come forward and expose her.

that the company was actually a fraud, was a Ponzi scheme. And Natalie was concerned Michael was going to come forward and expose her.

They were unable to find insulin in Michael's body when they exhumed it months later. Cut to 2023. The prosecution decides they want to exhume Michael's body again to test his remains with more sophisticated tests. And this time, the pathologist that the state hired to examine the remains ruled that Michael's manner of death was homicide.

They were unable to find insulin in Michael's body when they exhumed it months later. Cut to 2023. The prosecution decides they want to exhume Michael's body again to test his remains with more sophisticated tests. And this time, the pathologist that the state hired to examine the remains ruled that Michael's manner of death was homicide.

Now, the state went even further and had an endocrinologist review some of the paperwork. And she determined that the cause of death was most likely due to insulin injections. So there was no trace evidence of insulin.

Now, the state went even further and had an endocrinologist review some of the paperwork. And she determined that the cause of death was most likely due to insulin injections. So there was no trace evidence of insulin.

You know, Andrea, you've been through this so many times. I have, too. It's a very solemn occasion. Everybody's very quiet. Everyone is really deferential. The prospective jurors were sitting in the jury box, and then the prosecution enters, sits down at their desk, and then in comes Natalie Cochran. And you can see Natalie looking over at the prospective jurors.

You know, Andrea, you've been through this so many times. I have, too. It's a very solemn occasion. Everybody's very quiet. Everyone is really deferential. The prospective jurors were sitting in the jury box, and then the prosecution enters, sits down at their desk, and then in comes Natalie Cochran. And you can see Natalie looking over at the prospective jurors.