Dateline: True Crime Weekly
The pharmacist poisoning trial wraps up. A deadly love triangle in paradise? And Bryan Kohberger is back in court.
Thu, 30 Jan 2025
Listen to this week's episode of the Dateline: True Crime Weekly podcast with Andrea Canning. In West Virginia, there was emotional testimony last week from the children of the pharmacist accused of poisoning her husband. This week the jury returned its verdict. KHNL reporter Mark Carpenter has details on a Hawaii man standing trial - again - for allegedly shooting his wife's acupuncturist lover. And Bryan Kohberger's defense team urges a judge to throw out a key piece of the prosecution's case. Find out more about the cases covered each week here: www.datelinetruecrimeweekly.com
Chapter 1: What happened in the pharmacist poisoning trial?
How are things going to play out differently for the prosecution with this second trial? Because, you know, whatever they were doing the first time didn't work if it ended in a deadlock.
Yeah, the prosecution was shocked that there was no unanimous guilty verdict the first time around. Our understanding is going into this second round here is that they're really going to ramp up the DNA evidence.
What we're hearing in opening statements is that this time around, this white bucket hat was taken to a very reputable lab on the continental U.S., which the prosecution, they say, is much more accurate and zeroes in on Thompson even more.
So Eric's second trial began last week, and the first witness the prosecution called was John's mother. This is actually her second time having to testify in 18 months. That can't be easy.
Yes, and completely awful.
As I entered, I saw John on the floor. He was in a prone position.
Yeah, and she's suing Eric for wrongful death?
Mm-hmm, yes.
The prosecution also called witnesses to set up the surveillance video they say shows Eric near the clinic that day. And they're arguing if you can't tell it's Eric, that's because he went to great lengths to conceal his identity.
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Chapter 7: What emotional testimonies came from Natalie Cochran's children?
It reminded us there are some special kinds of pleas you can make. Here to walk us through it is NBC legal analyst Danny Savalos. Hey, Danny.
Hi, Andrea.
So good to have you back. So to start, defendants, of course, have that choice, as we mentioned, guilty or not guilty, which seems like the obvious two choices.
Yes, and there are actually some other pleas that are much more rare, and those are the Alford plea and the no contest or no lo contendere plea. So what is the difference between the two? In a no contest plea, you're basically not pleading guilty. You're not pleading anything, and you're sort of going limp and allowing the government or the court to find you guilty.
In an Alford plea, the defendant is pleading guilty, but but maintaining their innocence. And they enter an Alford plea because they believe in their heart of hearts they're innocent, but the evidence is just so overwhelming.
Right. And some of our listeners might recognize that term Alford plea from two big cases. One of them is Michael Peterson, famously accused of murdering his second wife, Kathleen, after her body was found at the bottom of a staircase. He took an Alford plea. And then there was Pam Hupp, who our listeners might recognize from Keith's podcast, The Thing About Pam.
She was accused of killing a man she'd lured to her home, and before facing trial, she took an Alford plea, too. So why was an Alford plea right for them, Dani?
Yeah, for Peterson, he'd been convicted of murdering his wife, Kathleen, in 2003. He was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. In 2011, a new trial is ordered after a judge vacates his conviction. And then in 2017, he takes an Alford plea instead of going to face a second trial. So you can see the benefit. to the state is that they get their guilty verdict.
He's sentenced to time served. He's able to leave prison. And he can tell himself that the nature of my plea was that I am innocent, even though as far as the government and the paperwork and the courts are concerned, I am guilty.
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