JD Graffam
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Something like that, yeah.
Come on, man.
I've got the agencies going as well, and they're much bigger than the apps.
That's where the payroll gets made.
No.
So I have a lot more than 10 or 20 customers on the agency side.
Um, and not quite, not quite the revenue numbers you're talking about, but pretty close and do have about 30 people.
So, so that part was okay.
Um, I'm not trying to solve my client's problems with these products.
I'm trying to sell the products of the problems of their agencies.
So if there's some sort of, uh, method to the madness in, in, in what type of product I'm looking for, it's what I call for us by us style apps.
So apps for small business owners like me, um,
apps for creative agencies and professional services firms.
So I've got a bug tracker.
I've got an email marketing.
I've got invoicing and time tracking app.
What's the invoicing one?
It's Ballpark.
Ballpark.com.
That's the same thing.