JD Vance

And the number three most important issue is foreign policy.

And maybe actually foreign policy is the biggest.

Because if you criticize the wars...

and you criticize American foreign entanglements, that is where people get really fired up.

I think some of it's financial, right?

I mean, Liz Cheney wants her board seat at Raytheon and everywhere else.

That's part of what's driving it.

Of course, her dad was a major owner, or I believe that he owned a pretty significant stake in Halliburton.

But I actually think, I don't want to overstate that, because I actually don't think that's most of what's going on.

And this is maybe a background view that I have that I should interrogate a little bit more.

But

I tend to think that people aren't expressly financially motivated.

I think they're much better at rationalizing their financial motivation is somehow good.

So I don't think Liz Cheney, to be fair, even though I can't stand her, wakes up and says, oh, I want to get rich, so I'm going to support the Ukraine war so that Raytheon can continue making all these missiles.

I think what's going on is they have convinced themselves that the post-World War II American consensus –

this entire idea that we're going to remake the entire world in America's image, they think that that is the most important, the most valuable project.

And they don't care.

They're going to do it as much as they can, even though I think it's run its course.

I think we should have learned in Iraq, we can't turn everybody into the United States of America, nor should we want to.

But these guys can't quite give up on it.