Jean Luo

And so, from the beginning, we figured out how to really build a strong family together, even with all the chaos of running businesses and living life in maybe a more

public way than I had expected I would growing up.

Oh, gosh.

Yeah, there you go.

That's a great idea.

That's a great idea.

I would love to hear her thoughts on that.

Gosh, I don't know.

Well, I think it's always helpful to have

someone else's perspective who really cares about you and wants you to succeed, uh, to give you their point of view.

So I don't know if it'd be one thing I've offered, but I think I I'm always there and available as like, you know, a coach who's not willing, you know, who's, who's not like unwilling to say the tough thing or to, you know, uh, um,

push on something that I think will help her business or her as a leader or help her succeed.

I think it's just so important to have friends and family that care about you that are not afraid to keep it real.

Miranda keeps it very real with me, so I try to, in a gentle way, do the same with her.

Yeah, it helps.

Sometimes it hurts, but it helps.

Oh, absolutely.

Yeah.

She's like, what is wrong?

Like my skin is so dry.