Jeff Baxter

So anywhere on that spectrum is really where Fabricool is going to develop towards.

No.

Yeah.

And in fact, I would argue it actually is the reverse, right?

You are moving blocks.

I mean, they may be snapshots, they may be different things like that, but you are actually taking the blocks off the primary system and moving them somewhere else.

If you lose your S3 bucket, right?

Through things that might have absolutely nothing to do with NetApp, right?

People have their S3 buckets.

deleted because their password was the same as their luggage, right?

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, right?

Yeah, I need to change my luggage combo.

So if someone does something ludicrous like that or whatever else happens inside a thread or whatever, you do lose those blocks.

They have left the ONTAP system.

So it makes backup even more critical, I think, for people that are choosing to use Fabricool because we're moving the data.

Backup is a logical copy that's being stored in some other different way, whether it's a different media or a different logical abstraction point.

it becomes even more critical.

So, yeah, no, I think it's a great point.

If only you had another podcast coming on backup partners.

Yeah.