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Jeff Dean

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

Yep.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

And then it's AI complete.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

If you can do a great job of that, then you can pretty much do anything.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

There were definitely some... There was this neural Turing machine.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

So...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

Yeah, a bunch of ideas around this attention slash there's like having these key value stores that could be useful in neural networks to kind of focus on things.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

So, yeah, I think in some sense in the air and in some sense, you know, you need some group to go do it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

I don't know what you... I am also excited to see where we go.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

And, you know, yeah, I think definitely the organizing information, you know, is clearly like a, you know, trillion-dollar opportunity.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

But, you know, a trillion dollars is not cool anymore.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

What's cool is a quadrillion dollars.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

I mean, and obviously the...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

The idea is not to just pile up some giant pile of money, but it's to create value in the world.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

And so much more value can be created when these systems can actually go and do something for you, write your code, or figure out problems that you wouldn't have been able to figure out yourself and to do that at scale.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

we're going to have to be very, very flexible and dynamic as we improve the capabilities of these models.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

Yeah.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

I mean...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

Yeah, the beautiful thing about model parameters is they are

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

quite memory efficient at sort of memorizing facts.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

Maybe you can probably memorize order of one fact or something per model parameter, whereas if you have some token in context, there are lots of keys and values at every layer.