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Jeff Dean

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

It could be a kilobyte, a megabyte of memory per token.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

Yes.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

Yes.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

So there's actually a lot of innovation going on around, OK, A, how do you minimize that?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

And B, OK, what words do you need to have there?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

Are there better ways of accessing bits of that information?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

You know, Jeff seems like the right person to figure this out.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

Like, OK, what does our memory hierarchy look like from the SRAM all the way up to data center worldwide level?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

Well, I mean, I assume we will have these models a lot better and hopefully be able to be much, much more productive.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

It might be kind of similar to what we have now because we already have sort of parallelization as a major issue.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

Because, you know, we have like lots and lots of really, really brilliant machine learning researchers and we want them to all work together and build AI.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

You know, so...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

Actually, the parallelization among people might be similar to parallelization among machines.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

But I think definitely it should be good for things that require a lot of exploration, like come up with the next breakthrough.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

If you have a brilliant idea that's just certain to work in the ML domain, then it has a 2% chance of working if you're brilliant.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

And mostly these things fail.

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Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

But if you try 100 things or 1,000 things or a million things, then you might hit on something amazing.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

And we have plenty of...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

Compute, like a modern, you know, top labs these days have probably a million times as much compute as it took to train Transformer.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer – 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

Maybe.