Jeff English

It's like coordinates on this war board, if you will, in therapy. Wow, there's a part of you that really gets activated when you seemingly don't have control and can't leave a situation. The hope that can come out of that, to see someone who could have been described as resistant to the process all of a sudden, at least like you're doing right now, nodding your head.

It's like coordinates on this war board, if you will, in therapy. Wow, there's a part of you that really gets activated when you seemingly don't have control and can't leave a situation. The hope that can come out of that, to see someone who could have been described as resistant to the process all of a sudden, at least like you're doing right now, nodding your head.

I'm going to start thinking about this. Maybe I'm not buying into it, but maybe something did happen to me.

I'm going to start thinking about this. Maybe I'm not buying into it, but maybe something did happen to me.

Well, what you just described, I'll call that answer B. That's the status quo. That's usually how folks get there. Every now and then someone may come in. Maybe I could call it a tourist or whatnot, but that doesn't happen much. We would say, and if you remember how that property is, you kind of drive down into it and all the things that are Kentucky you see on the way in.

Well, what you just described, I'll call that answer B. That's the status quo. That's usually how folks get there. Every now and then someone may come in. Maybe I could call it a tourist or whatnot, but that doesn't happen much. We would say, and if you remember how that property is, you kind of drive down into it and all the things that are Kentucky you see on the way in.

And we used to play around with this like, this is hard work and this is uncomfortable. And if it wasn't, there'd be a line of people all the way back up that hill trying to get in here. But if you notice, there's no line to get in here. And there's also no gate on this place, meaning you're free to go also. I use, it's just an average seven or eight.

And we used to play around with this like, this is hard work and this is uncomfortable. And if it wasn't, there'd be a line of people all the way back up that hill trying to get in here. But if you notice, there's no line to get in here. And there's also no gate on this place, meaning you're free to go also. I use, it's just an average seven or eight.

When I think of groups, they could be 10, but I use seven and eight. And I think about those folks in that room. There's so many different stories. Just about every group has got somebody in it that's pretty close, if not right on surrender and surrender within the spirit of my way does not work.

When I think of groups, they could be 10, but I use seven and eight. And I think about those folks in that room. There's so many different stories. Just about every group has got somebody in it that's pretty close, if not right on surrender and surrender within the spirit of my way does not work.

I don't know if your way is going to work, Jeff, but I'm willing to try it on for a couple of weeks because my way does not work. Now, that is a wonderful place to get to that I believe most people don't. Meaning most people don't show up there. Don't get to that type of surrender. I spent many decades, this may sound familiar, in this space right here. Life's pretty bad.

I don't know if your way is going to work, Jeff, but I'm willing to try it on for a couple of weeks because my way does not work. Now, that is a wonderful place to get to that I believe most people don't. Meaning most people don't show up there. Don't get to that type of surrender. I spent many decades, this may sound familiar, in this space right here. Life's pretty bad.

And I hear what you're saying, but I still think I know what's best for me. And I think that's where most of us spend a lot of time. But when you get in that circle, see, to me, that never mattered. Because if you were there, you had a chance. You had a chance to get some different perspective.

And I hear what you're saying, but I still think I know what's best for me. And I think that's where most of us spend a lot of time. But when you get in that circle, see, to me, that never mattered. Because if you were there, you had a chance. You had a chance to get some different perspective.

And if you're not there, I think just about every group that I've worked with has had at least one person in there that's there out of obligation. just to get somebody off their ass and quite honest with you to do the thing so that they can go back and say, I tried your thing and it didn't work.

And if you're not there, I think just about every group that I've worked with has had at least one person in there that's there out of obligation. just to get somebody off their ass and quite honest with you to do the thing so that they can go back and say, I tried your thing and it didn't work.

I've seen that quite a bit, but there's still a chance for something to happen within that group dynamic. If I tell somebody they're an asshole, I might just be saying that from therapy heel. And maybe that's the same thing that their spouse has been telling them.

I've seen that quite a bit, but there's still a chance for something to happen within that group dynamic. If I tell somebody they're an asshole, I might just be saying that from therapy heel. And maybe that's the same thing that their spouse has been telling them.

But if somebody in this circle that's living with you, eating with you, doing this uncomfortable thing with you, if they in some way let you know that they don't dig that thing that you do, i.e. the thing that makes you maybe an asshole. Hmm. Okay. So maybe my spouse isn't the only one saying this. Now, if you like it, I love it. I tried to retire from forcing change on folks.

But if somebody in this circle that's living with you, eating with you, doing this uncomfortable thing with you, if they in some way let you know that they don't dig that thing that you do, i.e. the thing that makes you maybe an asshole. Hmm. Okay. So maybe my spouse isn't the only one saying this. Now, if you like it, I love it. I tried to retire from forcing change on folks.