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Jeff English

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The Peter Attia Drive
#339 - Unpacking trauma: How early wounds shape behavior and the path toward healing | Jeff English

When you bring this up, this question up for me, it brings up a stumbling block that I've witnessed a lot with clients within the spirit of, or before they even become clients. And what I'm getting at is, is nothing happened to me. I don't think about that. Why do I need to talk about that? And I honor that as someone's truth.

The Peter Attia Drive
#339 - Unpacking trauma: How early wounds shape behavior and the path toward healing | Jeff English

When you bring this up, this question up for me, it brings up a stumbling block that I've witnessed a lot with clients within the spirit of, or before they even become clients. And what I'm getting at is, is nothing happened to me. I don't think about that. Why do I need to talk about that? And I honor that as someone's truth.

The Peter Attia Drive
#339 - Unpacking trauma: How early wounds shape behavior and the path toward healing | Jeff English

And of course, the answer therapeutically within the setting of somewhere like the bridge is, okay, God believe you. So you won't have any trouble telling your story. It'll be a breeze for you. You got to roll with that resistance. But the example that comes up for me, and that's where we get into implicit and explicit memory. A good example, I think, is flashbacks.

The Peter Attia Drive
#339 - Unpacking trauma: How early wounds shape behavior and the path toward healing | Jeff English

And of course, the answer therapeutically within the setting of somewhere like the bridge is, okay, God believe you. So you won't have any trouble telling your story. It'll be a breeze for you. You got to roll with that resistance. But the example that comes up for me, and that's where we get into implicit and explicit memory. A good example, I think, is flashbacks.

The Peter Attia Drive
#339 - Unpacking trauma: How early wounds shape behavior and the path toward healing | Jeff English

Go back to the example of something where somebody has an image. I think what comes to mind for most folks is an image. Like, I see this thing. So then back to this other person who says, I don't think about this stuff anymore. Like, I don't go into the room and think about my dad cheating on my mother. I don't even remember that stuff. And oftentimes the answer is, sure you do. What do you mean?

The Peter Attia Drive
#339 - Unpacking trauma: How early wounds shape behavior and the path toward healing | Jeff English

Go back to the example of something where somebody has an image. I think what comes to mind for most folks is an image. Like, I see this thing. So then back to this other person who says, I don't think about this stuff anymore. Like, I don't go into the room and think about my dad cheating on my mother. I don't even remember that stuff. And oftentimes the answer is, sure you do. What do you mean?

The Peter Attia Drive
#339 - Unpacking trauma: How early wounds shape behavior and the path toward healing | Jeff English

Well, you remember it through your anxiety, perhaps. Maybe it's not an image. Maybe it's not a sound. Maybe it's not a smell. But that thing, that discomfort that you're experiencing, maybe that's the way you remember it.

The Peter Attia Drive
#339 - Unpacking trauma: How early wounds shape behavior and the path toward healing | Jeff English

Well, you remember it through your anxiety, perhaps. Maybe it's not an image. Maybe it's not a sound. Maybe it's not a smell. But that thing, that discomfort that you're experiencing, maybe that's the way you remember it.

The Peter Attia Drive
#339 - Unpacking trauma: How early wounds shape behavior and the path toward healing | Jeff English

Something that's coming up for me, and again, there's so many case studies, if you will, but within the spirit of making the implicit explicit, the example that I just gave, you know how that process works at the bridge. After the group's over in the evenings, we usually have meetings where the folks can experience some type of maybe a 12-step meeting, some kind of meeting.

The Peter Attia Drive
#339 - Unpacking trauma: How early wounds shape behavior and the path toward healing | Jeff English

Something that's coming up for me, and again, there's so many case studies, if you will, but within the spirit of making the implicit explicit, the example that I just gave, you know how that process works at the bridge. After the group's over in the evenings, we usually have meetings where the folks can experience some type of maybe a 12-step meeting, some kind of meeting.

The Peter Attia Drive
#339 - Unpacking trauma: How early wounds shape behavior and the path toward healing | Jeff English

And it's part of the curriculum, if you will, and it's mandatory. We've had clients have panic attacks. I would qualify some of those as that in these situations. The next day, when you're in group trying to unravel something that happened on the previous night, and we're talking about a client that I've been describing and they're like,

The Peter Attia Drive
#339 - Unpacking trauma: How early wounds shape behavior and the path toward healing | Jeff English

And it's part of the curriculum, if you will, and it's mandatory. We've had clients have panic attacks. I would qualify some of those as that in these situations. The next day, when you're in group trying to unravel something that happened on the previous night, and we're talking about a client that I've been describing and they're like,

The Peter Attia Drive
#339 - Unpacking trauma: How early wounds shape behavior and the path toward healing | Jeff English

Obviously, I need to see a medical doctor because I said, possibly you do. Well, let's try to work it at both ends. Let's unravel this. This process, you give up a certain amount of control. Let's say this client had control issues. And so it's one of the things we ask you to do is give up control at the bridge.

The Peter Attia Drive
#339 - Unpacking trauma: How early wounds shape behavior and the path toward healing | Jeff English

Obviously, I need to see a medical doctor because I said, possibly you do. Well, let's try to work it at both ends. Let's unravel this. This process, you give up a certain amount of control. Let's say this client had control issues. And so it's one of the things we ask you to do is give up control at the bridge.

The Peter Attia Drive
#339 - Unpacking trauma: How early wounds shape behavior and the path toward healing | Jeff English

and client x says yes yes yes that's right so okay so you're sitting here and you know there's exits you know the people are in the room you know all the players are here but for some reason you're anxious that your anxiety is building to the point to where you experience or you describe this thing as a panic attack right exactly and i don't need to talk about any of this stuff that you guys are talking about i said okay great but just play along with me who's the most controlling person that you've ever met in your life oh you should have met my grandmother

The Peter Attia Drive
#339 - Unpacking trauma: How early wounds shape behavior and the path toward healing | Jeff English

and client x says yes yes yes that's right so okay so you're sitting here and you know there's exits you know the people are in the room you know all the players are here but for some reason you're anxious that your anxiety is building to the point to where you experience or you describe this thing as a panic attack right exactly and i don't need to talk about any of this stuff that you guys are talking about i said okay great but just play along with me who's the most controlling person that you've ever met in your life oh you should have met my grandmother

The Peter Attia Drive
#339 - Unpacking trauma: How early wounds shape behavior and the path toward healing | Jeff English

Okay, tell me one of the most controlling things your grandmother may have done. Well, I lived with her for three or four years in my childhood. There was that deal with the basement when I was in trouble. The deal with the basement. Can you say more about that? I'd get locked down there. How long? I don't know. It was dark. I learned how to not think about it. Back to the implicit with explicit.

The Peter Attia Drive
#339 - Unpacking trauma: How early wounds shape behavior and the path toward healing | Jeff English

Okay, tell me one of the most controlling things your grandmother may have done. Well, I lived with her for three or four years in my childhood. There was that deal with the basement when I was in trouble. The deal with the basement. Can you say more about that? I'd get locked down there. How long? I don't know. It was dark. I learned how to not think about it. Back to the implicit with explicit.

The Peter Attia Drive
#339 - Unpacking trauma: How early wounds shape behavior and the path toward healing | Jeff English

So I think about this like files. There's this loss of control file in the traumatized brain. Can I prove that A plus B equals C? No, I can't. There's not going to be anything evidence-based that says that was a situation based on that grandmother's control and abuse in childhood. That is why that panic attack happened. But it certainly gives us something to look at.

The Peter Attia Drive
#339 - Unpacking trauma: How early wounds shape behavior and the path toward healing | Jeff English

So I think about this like files. There's this loss of control file in the traumatized brain. Can I prove that A plus B equals C? No, I can't. There's not going to be anything evidence-based that says that was a situation based on that grandmother's control and abuse in childhood. That is why that panic attack happened. But it certainly gives us something to look at.