Jeff Grant

And just last week, I celebrated 22 years of sobriety.

So, you know, I took to it, you know, and I go every day.

So, I mean, moving forward with the story is I spent all my time in AA.

I wasn't working anymore.

I was, I didn't know how I was going to support my family.

I had a few dollars in the bank, which is good.

Um, about 20 months after I got sober, I got a call from two agents who said, there's a warrant out for your arrest in connection with the false representations you'd made on the SBA loan.

I, I, I, I have, I have some assumptions.

One was that they had, they had a third mortgage on my house.

And so whatever money, when we sold the house, whatever came out of the excess that came out of the house had to go to them.

But it wasn't the payoff in full.

There wasn't enough equity to pay them off in full.

So as soon as that happens, anytime that happens,

they started an investigation right so i i assume that what happened was is that they started going through everything and they went through the paperwork and everything and then they realized and then they they made a referral to the u.s attorney's office i assume that's what happened right no one ever told me but i've been involved in enough litigation enough enough cases i've been involved in over a thousand cases since then and i can tell you that's pretty much what happened so

It's now still within this like two-year bubble post 9-11.

And I have to go present myself down at 500 Pearl Street at the federal court down there.

And I drive down, and it's like a war zone.

I don't know if you remember what was going on in Manhattan back then, but there were checkpoints, and they were putting mirrors under your car, and there were military around, and I felt like the worst person in the world.

I mean, this is like a war crime.

And I met my lawyer and we walked into 500 Pearl and he handed me and he presented me to the U.S.