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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Mob Lawyer Confessions | Goodfellas, Scams & More

24 Dec 2025

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 22.611 Matthew Cox

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54.036 - 75.178 Jeff Grant

What's supposed to be happening couldn't happen without fraud. His big clients were the Goodfellas guys. We're maybe six months ahead of the FBI coming and doing a raid. So if you think you're going to lose your law license, what do you do? This revelation comes over me like that. All these years where I thought people were doing...

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things to hurt me or the world was against me, I was really the one who was doing the bad things. My parents were middle-class Jewish refugees from the city. And we moved out to Long Island, basically in the great exodus. where everyone made from Brooklyn and Queens and everything out to Long Island. And it was kind of like the swinging 60s.

103.308 - 122.952 Jeff Grant

And as soon as possible, my parents completely abandoned us because they were doing crazy stuff out there like all the other parents were doing. They were living the good life. You know, this is the first time. And we were all left to pretty much raise ourselves. It was a whole culture out there.

122.932 - 127.298 Matthew Cox

Like we're talking about like the 60s, like flower children kind of thing?

127.518 - 144.308 Jeff Grant

Well, my mother, they were actually older than that. My mother was a party girl. I mean, like a full blown on party girl. She later became like a Manhattan party girl. Okay. And my father had been in a family business and it failed. And then he had to kind of go out on his own.

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And as soon as my mother figured out that my father wasn't going to be the great success that she had hoped for, you know, the guy who's going to lead her out of Brooklyn and lead her into the promised land, she started seeing other guys. She had affairs. She was doing all kinds of crazy stuff. I think my parents were probably swingers.

Chapter 2: What led Jeff Grant to lose his law license?

203.105 - 227.213 Jeff Grant

But I'm talking about everybody in my junior high school and everybody in my high school. It was just this whole era of kids whose parents had basically abandoned them. And if you ask any kid from Long Island, they're going to tell you the same story. It was just, it was crazy. And it was a, it was the first time anybody had, you know, a little bit of money. We weren't upper class.

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We weren't, but we weren't rich, but nobody was poor.

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Right. And they weren't going to bed hungry. You did not have any clothes, you know?

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235.488 - 254.003 Jeff Grant

And so my mother was into mother's little helpers, you know, so she had uppers and downers. And there was this big bar in the house that was this big wraparound bar in one of the rooms where they kept all the liquor. And, you know, it was in a locked cabinet, which, of course, we knew where the key was.

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I was going to say that the mother's little, like Colby doesn't know what mother's little helpers are. Like literally, do you? Okay, I know you've never heard of it.

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So mother's little helpers is basically my mother went to a diet doctor.

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Right.

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And the diet doctor gave her uppers to diet, you know, so amphetamines, and that would get her up. But to go to sleep at night, she would have to take these downers, second alls, two and alls, placid dills. And she had them in jars of like 500 a piece. I mean, it wasn't like now. And so once I started drinking... And so I'm stealing vodka or something from the bar.

Chapter 3: How did Jeff's childhood influence his later choices?

316.32 - 338.02 Jeff Grant

Like, we wanted to take downers, and so we were taking downers, and sometimes we saw something that we didn't know what it was, but they were really uppers. And so I had sleepovers with my friends, but they would stay over the house, and we took uppers but didn't know it, and then we'd, like... have to push my mother's car out into the street because we wouldn't have started in the garage.

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And then we just did joyrides all over Long Island, you know, completely stoned out of our minds.

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and that was my childhood right that was my childhood that was what it was we were one exit away from jones beach and we would go to the beach almost every day either by by skiff because it was right across the bay and we were it was it was not it was no character building whatsoever none well as i said it does not seem like long island like that doesn't i don't

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That doesn't, it's not the picture I have of Long Island, but.

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Well, imagine Steven Spielberg from E.T. Right. That neighborhood in E.T., but like the kids are on mescaline. That would basically be.

384.949 - 392.56 Matthew Cox

I was thinking very, you know, I think of middle class and tranquil, you know what I'm saying? Oh, no, no, no. But then, I mean, I was raised in the South, so no idea.

392.761 - 408.102 Jeff Grant

This is what growing up in Long Island was like. And just, you know, having the first inkling or the first money that anybody ever really had, but not enough money that we could actually go to private schools and things like that.

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Did you ever get into trouble or anything? Like, did the cops ever pull over the cars? Did you ever get in trouble in school? Anything like that? I was always in trouble.

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Okay.

Chapter 4: What experiences did Jeff have while practicing law?

3736.544 - 3764.256 Jeff Grant

But I had met people there that I never would have had an opportunity to meet. You know, gangbangers from Baltimore, and this is a prison out in Pennsylvania. But a lot of good things happened in prison that I look back on that were great because it really got me in touch with myself and finished kind of the job of creating some humility in me.

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But I also found some spirituality in there that I didn't know I would have, and I got into shape. And so there's a whole prison story, which is not unlike most people's prison stories, as it turns out. But for me, it was profound. But when I got home from prison, you know, first I was in a halfway house and then I was on home confinement and then.

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I'm living, you know, a very simple life at that point. And I start to volunteer.

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So did, real quick, did Lynn, that's your wife's name, right? Yeah. Did she come and see you while you were in prison?

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She came and saw me for six or seven times.

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Okay.

3807.666 - 3830.299 Jeff Grant

And then I got my Dear John letter from her. And I'm telling you, she's, it was like, if you got to the waiting room, If you go out to the visiting room, there's a sea of people. You know what they look like in a visiting room, right? And then there's this beautiful stately woman who looks like she should be on the cover of Town & Country magazine or Vanity Fair.

3830.899 - 3847.271 Jeff Grant

It's like she was completely out of place. I mean, she's magnificent looking. And just the way she carries herself. And the first time she came to visit me, You know, we embraced and then we sat down because you get that because you're allowed like 30 seconds to hug something like that.

3848.372 - 3849.373 Matthew Cox

Yeah. Right. So horrible.

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