Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Episodes
How a Celebrity Business Manager Exploited His Clients | Millions Stolen
20 Jun 2026
Contributed by Lukas
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Cartel Smuggler Turned Informant | The Rise and Fall of Dr. Hal Bradley
19 Jun 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Dr. Hal Bradley was a lieutenant in the Sinaloa Cartel during the 70s and 80s before his life took a wild turn. Dr. Hal's Links https://...
I Got 20 Life Sentences In Prison For A Crime I DIDN'T COMMIT! | Carlos McAdory
18 Jun 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Join the Sunday night live stream here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tlvT3UK1QE Carlos McAdory shares how he was sentenced to 20 life t...
Inside the Pill Mill Scheme That Printed Millions
17 Jun 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Smuggler to Kingpin of Pain Clinic’s. The Rise and Fall of Jason Votrobek. Jason's Links https://www.instagram.com/8upjay/reels/ ht...
Rick Ross's Jeweler Makes Millions In Money Laundering Scheme
16 Jun 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Campo, a jeweler who supplied chains to major rappers, reveals how greed pulled him into a massive money-laundering operation, and how prison ultimate...
Inside the Biggest Government Money Laundering Scandal in America
15 Jun 2026
Contributed by Lukas
James Catledge and MATT COX discuss money laundering within the government. James IG https://www.instagram.com/james_b_cat/ James Youtub...
I Was Wrongfully Sentenced To 4 Life Sentences At 17
14 Jun 2026
Contributed by Lukas
After being wrongfully sentenced to four life sentences at just 17, Melissa Doran refused to give up hope and ultimately transformed years of injustic...
Gene Borrello Breaks Silence on Cooperating With the Feds | Mob Soldier Turned Witness
13 Jun 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Gene Borrello talks about cooperation. Gene's Book https://www.amazon.com/Born-LIfe-Borrello-Ex-Bonanno-Enforcer/dp/1667805576?fbclid=PAZXh0...
Inside John Boseak’s Life as an International Fugitive | Why The Cops Can't Catch Him
12 Jun 2026
Contributed by Lukas
John Boseak explains why the cops are looking for him... John's Links https://boseak.myshopify.com https://www.patreon.com/Johnbosea...
This Legal Loophole Sent Me To Prison!
11 Jun 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Ryan Richmond thought he was building a legal dispensary to help people, but after years of raids, prosecutions, and a controversial tax case that sen...
The Rise, Fall, and Redemption of a Hollywood Burglar
10 Jun 2026
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NYPD Detective Catches America’s Dumbest Criminals
09 Jun 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Vic Ferrari, a veteran NYPD cop, shares stories about some of the dumbest criminals, wildest scams, and most unbelievable cases he encountered during ...
Myron Gaines Reacts to the JFK Files and His Time in Federal Service
08 Jun 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Fresh & Fit Podcast Host Myron Gaines Shares his life story. Myron's YT Links https://www.youtube.com/@UC4HttNRwamCTHVu_H6i-uvw htt...
FBI Informant Reveals How Snitches Make MILLIONS
07 Jun 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Ben Freedland, a former high-level trafficker, reveals how a near-death experience pushed him to leave the criminal world behind, become an FBI inform...
He Made Millions in Secret! | Credit Card Scammer's Double Life
06 Jun 2026
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Celebrity Barber Escapes Prison and Builds New Life
05 Jun 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Thomas Baca served prison time in New Mexico State Prison for armed robbery, aggravated battery, and kidnapping. Thomas's Links https://...
M&M's Employee Steals $26 MILLION (How He Did It)
04 Jun 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Matt Cox and former FBI agent Tom Smith break down the unbelievable true story of an M&M’s employee who stole $26 million from one of the world’s ...
The $5M Watch Scam That Took Down Timepiece Gentleman
03 Jun 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Anthony Farrer appeared or the timepiece gentleman has just been sentenced for a $5 million dollar luxury watch ponzi scheme. Contact Greg ...
Daddy Yankee's Producer, a Hit Gone Wrong, & Life in Prison
02 Jun 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Julito Diaz, a Bronx street hustler who helped build a powerful criminal operation connected to Daddy Yankee’s early rise, ultimately faced the cons...
Inside the Real-Life Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street | Nadine Macaluso Tells All
01 Jun 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Dr. Nadine Macaluso shares her personal story of being married to the infamous Wolf of Wall Street, Jordan Belfort. Connect with Dr. Nadine M...
Billy Carson's Wife Runs Credit Card Scheme
31 May 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Elisabeth Carson opens up about the fast money and reckless lifestyle tied to a credit card fraud ring before becoming a mother and ultimately choosin...
FBI Agent Shares Wildest Stories From In-Flight Emergencies
30 May 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Tom Simon was an FBI Special Agent for 26 years before becoming a Licensed Private Investigator in Florida. On this Episode Tom and Matt breakdown air...
The Wild Rise, Fall, and Reinvention of a Rapper Turned Politician
29 May 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Reed Byers shares his road to recovery and how he turned his life around. Reeds Website https://sites.google.com/view/reedbyers/home Ree...
NYC Cop Caught Robbing Banks
28 May 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Christian Torres shares his story of being a struggling NYPD rookie who secretly turned to robbing banks to escape financial pressure, only to lose ev...
Inside the Epstein Black Book | Whistleblower Speaks Out
27 May 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Nick Bryant is the original Journalist who published Epstein’s Black Book and Jet Passenger Logs. Nick's Links https://x.com/nick__bry...
I Was Wrongly Convicted To Life In Prison
26 May 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Erico Montalvo, a young man wrongly facing life in prison, endures years of uncertainty and isolation before finding faith, self-control, and hope whi...
Locked Up Abroad: American Held Hostage Inside a Dominican Prison
25 May 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Michael Wittenberg, a U.S. citizen, shares his harrowing experience of serving nearly two years in a Dominican Republic prison. Control Body...
The Largest FBI Mafia Takedown in History
24 May 2026
Contributed by Lukas
An FBI agent, Seamus McElearney, transformed a struggling mob task force into the operation behind the largest Mafia takedown in history, using relent...
Inside a Million-Dollar Heist That Went Completely Wrong
23 May 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Lucas Shares his Life story and how he turned his life around. Lucas's Links https://www.youtube.com/@UC-GpLpes32seNrd1LqQZWgA https:...
Trump Pardons Arrested Jan. 6 Police Officer
22 May 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Nathan Tuck is a former cop who was arrested for the events on Jan.6th 2021. He was just pardoned by president trump and now shares his story ...
Inside America's Largest Smuggling Family | Captain Kent Daniels
21 May 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Despite growing up inside America’s largest smuggling family and surviving years of dangerous runs through the Everglades, Captain Kent Daniels refl...
The Rise and Fall of the “Donald Trump of Synthetics”
20 May 2026
Contributed by Lukas
John Tebbetts shares how he was taken down by the DEA and FBI. John's Candy: https://www.amazon.com/Bliss-Life-Blasts-Bite-Sized-Candies/dp/B...
Young Thug Trial Lawyer Exposes Corruption
19 May 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Criminal defense attorney Jay Abt breaks down the corruption, courtroom chaos, and shocking behind-the-scenes moments from the Young Thug trial and th...
Credit Card Scammer Finds Infinite Money Glitch!
18 May 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Ghost B shares fraud stories from his past. Ghost Links https://www.instagram.com/ghostfinesse2x?igsh=eG9nYWN6OXo4NTZn&utm_source=qr ...
Whistleblower Cop Exposes Corruption
17 May 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Richie Caruso, a former correctional officer, recounts how he exposed violent corruption and staged inmate “gladiator fights” inside a California ...
Master Bank Robber Breaks Down His Most Infamous Heist
15 May 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Victor Shear shares insane stories from when he was a bank robber. Victors Links https://www.tiktok.com/@mad.duck48?_t=ZT-8tLjVySou1S&_r=1...
Black Exposes Druski’s White Boy Skit
14 May 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Black, a former inmate-turned celebrity bodyguard, breaks down the harsh realities of street culture, race, policing, and social media fame while expl...
The Story Behind the Blake Lively Allegations | Insider Explains
13 May 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Andy from PopcornedPlanet breaks down the current Blake lively Justin Baldoni Situation! Andy's Channel https://www.youtube.com/@PopcornedPla...
Corrupt Cops Frame Party Promoter for 51 Years
12 May 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Despite being framed by corrupt cops and sentenced to 51 years to life over a wildly exaggerated case tied to his nightlife success, Anthony Baptiste ...
Illegal Immigrant Deported, Returns to U.S., and Gets Arrested by ICE
11 May 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Donald Trump's Mass Deportation's are coming. Armando shares his experience of being deported from America. Armando's Channel https://www.you...
Wes Watson Student Arrested as a Firefighter
10 May 2026
Contributed by Lukas
After spiraling from addiction and losing everything, including his firefighting career, freedom, and custody of his son, Jonnie Parsons, a former Wes...
The Secrets Hollywood Doesn’t Want Public
09 May 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Ronnie Bo comes clean on the current jay-z situation. Ronnie's Links https://ronniebo52.gumroad.com/l/conspiracytocolonizeourculture ...
How the FBI Took Down the So-Called “King of Synthetics”
08 May 2026
Contributed by Lukas
John Tebbetts shares how he was taken down by the DEA and FBI. John's Candy: https://www.amazon.com/Bliss-Life-Blasts-Bite-Sized-Candies...
FBI AGENT Reveals Untold Story Behind Dr. Love | Tom Simon
07 May 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Matt & Tom unpack the wild true story of “Dr. Love,” a teenage fake doctor whose crimes spiraled until he faced the consequences and was forced to...
Inside One of the Biggest Healthcare Fraud Cases in U.S. History
06 May 2026
Contributed by Lukas
United Healthcare CEO and Luigi Mangione have brought a lot of attention to how healthcare really works. Nelson Rodriguez shares his experience commit...
Porky’s Nightclub Owner Arrested Overseas
05 May 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Josh Weiss, a former club insider, recounts how a chaotic life of crime, vice, and near-misses with international arrest ultimately forced him to reco...
What People Get Wrong About Being Gay in Prison
04 May 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Carl Rimi and Matt cox talk about everything from being gay in prison to carl's new movie! Carls channel https://www.youtube.com/@UCuw-6YU-Bd...
Escobar’s Pilot Makes Millions & Escapes Prison | Roger Reaves
03 May 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Roger Reaves, a former pilot, rises from poverty to making millions flying for cartels, but after surviving violence, prison, and repeated close calls...
Inside the $30M Scheme of a Notorious Con Man | The Condo King
02 May 2026
Contributed by Lukas
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A One Night Stand Gone Completely Wrong
01 May 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Dalton Shares his insane life story Dalton's Tiktok https://www.tiktok.com/@dttv519?lang=en Get 50% sitewide for a limited time. Jus...
Inmate Affair Exposed On Jerry Springer!
30 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
A reckless affair exposed on Jerry Springer sends Cory Simek into a downward spiral of prison, betrayal, and near ruin, but ultimately pushes him to t...
Falsely Accused of Murder | What Really Happened
29 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Hollywood Wade tells how one tragic night changed his life forever. Wades channel https://www.youtube.com/@crimenentertainment Get ...
FBI Agent Reveals the Truth About Snowden, Kiriakou & Kash Patel
28 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
A retired FBI agent, Tom Simon, shares insider perspectives on high-profile figures like Snowden and Kiriakou while also revealing how interrogation t...
One of the FBI’s Most Wanted Cops Was Finally Arrested
27 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Brendan Butler stars his story as a corrupt correctional officer and then how he was arrested by the FBI. Get 50% sitewide for a limited...
The Untold Story Behind T.I.'s Arrest | Alfamega
26 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Alfamega, a former street figure recounts how a life of crime, prison, and loyalty spiraled into betrayal and public blame in T.I.’s arrest, ultimat...
America’s Most Notorious Cop Speaks Out | Mike Dowd on Police Corruption
25 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Mike Dowd shares exclusive stories from his past. Dowds podcast https://www.youtube.com/@GCBCPodcast/videos Get 50% sitewide for a ...
Captured by the Taliban | Betrayal And Escape
24 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Geno Shares his story of being held hostage in Afghanistan. Get 50% sitewide for a limited time. Just visit https://GhostBed.com/cox and use...
Inmate Gets Rich Sleeping With Officers | Black Label Services
23 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Black rises from a brutally abusive childhood into a powerful street figure whose reckless empire and prison hustles spiral out of control, ultimately...
Ex-Scammers Tell Their Craziest Stories and Biggest Mistakes!!!
22 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Matt, Zack, & Cyx Shares their new years resolutions and some funny stories. Get 50% sitewide for a limited time. Just visit https://GhostBe...
Top 10 Julian Dorey & Matt Cox Moments
21 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
A compilation of standout moments shows how Julian Dorey and Matt Cox turned chaotic stories, failures, and unlikely conversations into a platform tha...
Rigged From the Start: The Government’s Hidden Role in Crypto Scam
20 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Jimmy Vallee exposes the SEC's war on Crypto. https://www.valhiladvisors.io Documentary https://fruitionnetwork.vhx.tv/products/xrp-unlea...
Baby E Reveals What Happened After “Finessin” Blew Up
19 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
After rising from a grinding start to major-label success, Baby E’s hit “Finessin” puts him back into the spotlight, but only after addiction, b...
How Two Men Pulled Off 27 Store Robberies Across Florida | Salt & Pepper Bandits
18 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Michael Walter shares hilarious stories from his past as one of the Salt & Pepper Bandits. Get 50% sitewide for a limited time. Just visit ht...
From Rich to Fugitive Overnight | What Went Wrong For This Criminal
17 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Derek Rowe shares his life story. Contact Derek https://www.instagram.com/drowemethod/ Get 50% sitewide for a limited time. Just vi...
The Downfall of America’s Largest Pill Mill
16 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Derik recounts how his rise in America’s largest pill mill led to prison, where systemic neglect and retaliation cost him his eyesight, until one ri...
His Final Interview Before 16 Years Behind Bars
15 Apr 2026
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Nelson Pizarro explains why he is heading to prison for 16 years.... Get 50% sitewide for a limited time. Just visit https://GhostBed.com/cox...
The Untold Story of Tiger King
14 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Jim Rathmann, a former investigator, revisits the mysteries behind Tiger King and beyond, revealing how relentless pursuit of overlooked evidence help...
The Hostage Situation No One Saw Coming And How She Escaped
13 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Courtney shares her true crime story about overcoming many of life's obstacles. Follow Courtney https://www.instagram.com/courtnologist/ ...
CIA Whistleblower Arrested After Exposing This | John Kiriakou
12 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
John Kiriakou, a former CIA officer, recounts his path into covert operations, his role in counterterrorism after the 2001 terrorist attacks, and the ...
Counterfeiter Exploited Celebrities for Millions
11 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Robert "Hustleman" Mitchell Shares his true crime story. Hustleman's Links https://linktr.ee/hustleman101?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaYnSm...
How an Innocent Kid Got Caught in a Police Setup
10 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Jacob Smith shares his story about being set up by the DEA. Get 50% sitewide for a limited time. Just visit https://GhostBed.com/cox and use...
My Underground Casino Got Raided
09 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
After a chaotic youth of crime, abuse, and an underground casino raid, Lex Bialowarczuk finally begins turning her life around to rebuild stability fo...
Dark Web Criminal Targeted Celebrities | What Really Happened
08 Apr 2026
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The Untold Story Behind The Sopranos | FBI Agent Seamus McElearney
07 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
FBI Agent Seamus McElearney recounts how his early undercover work with a key informant inside the real-life crime family behind The Sopranos ultimate...
Officer Arrested Following Deadly 911 Response | Details Explained
06 Apr 2026
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Banker Launders Millions for Colombian Cartel
05 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Christian Carmona shares how he rose from a childhood shaped by cartel ties and personal loss into a legitimate life, only to fall into crime himself ...
Cartel Associate Explains How He Stayed Ahead and Made Millions
04 Apr 2026
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Top Lawyer Weighs In on Viral Scandals, Influencers, and Crime Stories
03 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Baller Busters Lawyer Raees Mohamed gives his opinion on recent trending true crime news with people like United Healthcare CEO, Jay-Z, Diddy, Hawk Tu...
FBI Agent Exposes Taliban Glizzy’s Heist Ring
02 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Tom Simon, a former FBI agent, breaks down how rapper Taliban Glizzy secretly ran a violent jewelry heist crew while challenging Matt Cox to guess rea...
John Boseak Disappears to Thailand Following Fraud Allegations
01 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Matt and John talk about why he is leaving the US for Thailand. Johns Channel https://www.youtube.com/@UCn3VS6xIYN1_sn3ZBh0SHMw ht...
Man Finds Killer Hiding In His Attic
31 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Ellis Jones recounted how escalating threats led him to uncover a deeply unsettling and dangerous presence hidden within his own home. Ellis'...
UFO Whistleblower Breaks Silence on Controversial Video
30 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Jon Stewart explains all the details behind his Alien Interview. Watch the Documentary http://huntingvictor.com Get 50% sitewide for...
Wes Watson’s Sentence REVEALED by Lawyer
29 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
John Guidry, a criminal defense lawyer, breaks down Wes Watson’s past crimes, controversial persona, and recent legal troubles to clarify what sente...
What Casinos Don’t Want You to Understand About the System
28 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Paul Schiffbauer Explains how Illegal gambling works. Pauls's Links https://linktr.ee/themachineman Get 50% sitewide for a limited t...
How Inside Edition Exposed a Professional Scammer
27 Mar 2026
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90 Day Fiancé Star Frames Boyfriend
26 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
After being falsely accused of attempted murder by his ex-girlfriend following a chaotic day at Boca Bash, Cole Goldberg fought a four-year legal batt...
What a Historian Says About Government Secrecy and Hidden History
25 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Leighton shares his research on government coverups from JFK, Aliens, Joe Vogler, and more. Go to https://piavpn.com/MatthewCox to get 83% o...
The Real Story Behind The Wire | Crime & Corruption
24 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Carl Johnson, who grew up in poverty, lost his mother to addiction at four, and built a criminal empire in the streets, finally finds redemption by tu...
My Experience Inside And Why I Ultimately Left The Mormon Church...
23 Mar 2026
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Stacy Lee shares her experience growing up mormon. Get 50% sitewide for a limited time. Just visit https://GhostBed.com/cox and use code COX...
The Untold Story of My “Hot Felon” Mugshot | Jeremy Meeks
22 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
After a violent, chaotic life shaped by trauma and crime, Jeremy Meeks’ viral “hot felon” mugshot unexpectedly opened a door that ultimately pus...
Inside the World of Check Fraud with Charlie Hartman
21 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Charlie Hartman shares his life of crime on the run. Connect with Charlie Hartman: https://www.tiktok.com/@imcharliehartman?_t=8n5y1phlTm...
Hunting the FBI's Most Wanted Fugitives (ACTIVE BOUNTY)
20 Mar 2026
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How Fraudsters Make Millions Off Prisoners
19 Mar 2026
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Chad Marks, a former fraudster, reveals how inmates are exploited for millions through prison scams, while reflecting on the mindset that once drove h...
COP SCAMMED FOR $400,000 (How They Did It)
18 Mar 2026
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Achille Currado shares how he was scammed as a cop. Get 50% sitewide for a limited time. Just visit https://GhostBed.com/cox and use code COX...
Undercover ATF Agent Busts Bad Cops!
17 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Eric Immesberger, a former undercover ATF agent, recounts the wild, dangerous cases and close calls from his career, including exposing corrupt cops, ...
John McAfee's Former CEO Speaks Out On Millions Stolen and His Death
16 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Jimmy Watson served 17 years on active duty and was John McAfee's CEO before everything went downhill. Support Jimmy Watson - Join Jimm...
BandGang Javar’s McDonald’s Credit Card Fraud Scheme
15 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
BandGang Javar recounts how a troubled childhood and a lucrative credit-card fraud scheme pulled him deep into crime before prison forced him to rethi...
Diddy Witness Speaks After FBI Raid and Grand Jury Testimony
14 Mar 2026
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Courtney Burgess explains how he was raided and what he told the grand jury. IG https://www.instagram.com/courtney.bnj/ Get 50% ...
Ex-Fraudsters Break Down the Smartest and Dumbest Scams
13 Mar 2026
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Myron Gaines: The Lies Behind WW3 & Epstein
12 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Myron Gaines challenges mainstream narratives around Epstein, World War III, and global power struggles while arguing that understanding these hidden ...