Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Get out there and get dirty and I go catch my guys. You do? Yeah. I suit up and everything. Yes. But he's going in custody today. There's no other option. He got away the first time, tried to run us over. Yeah. Tried to run us over in a family dollar, family dollar parking lot.
So how does it work? Because to me, the way I thought the system worked is that somebody's got a $100,000 bond that They need somebody to put up $100,000, and so they come to you. They give you 10%, $10,000, maybe a fee for an application fee or whatever, $100, $200. And then... You put up the $100,000 or you have some kind of an insurance company or something that puts up $100,000.
Either they physically put it up or they just agree to pay the $100,000 on your behalf.
Chapter 2: How does bail bonding work in practice?
And then you get to make – so then the guy, he's out on bond for 90 days, six months. He goes to court. He's found guilty. Or he pleads guilty, he goes to jail for five years, whatever. Or maybe he goes to trial. Either way, when the case is resolved, you basically have major fee for you've made that $10,000. Yes. I was always wondering, like, how long can they stay out?
Because I know guys that... Their trial wasn't for three years. And then the other thing is I'd like to know, like, what happens if the guy takes off? Like, how does all of that work? Because let's face it, guy gets $100,000. Like, I'm assuming you don't have $100,000 of your own money to put up.
Right, right.
So how does that work?
So $100,000 would be the $10,000 bond premium they would pay the bondsman. So... A percentage goes to your insurance company for their profit, and a percentage goes to something called a build-up fund account for you. And that's for all of your skips, and skips are when people miss court.
So every bond that you write, some of it's going to go to the insurance, and some of it's going to go to the build-up fund account, and the rest of it is yours.
So you're not making $10,000.
Right, no.
You're making a couple thousand.
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Chapter 3: What happens if a defendant skips court?
So who does a tip like that come from? Just like a girlfriend, ex-girlfriend, a friend?
Yes, yes. It could be a friend. It could be a family member, girlfriend, might be upset, baby mama, you know.
But there's nothing you can do if somebody just randomly calls, right?
Yeah, sometimes you can, you know, because if they can give me details of, like, what they're saying and things like that, I'm like, wow, he might do something. Right. So it was a trafficking case, and so the guy was facing a lot of time. He's a career criminal, and he was faced a lot of time. Yeah. I'm like, hmm. So I will go to court and I will pick them up at their court dates.
You want to run on me? I'm going to get you from court. So I let the bailiffs know, hey, this is what's going to happen. If I need help, they're going to help me. So I went to his court date and I clank him.
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Chapter 4: What are the financial aspects of posting bail?
after the court. I put the cuffs on. Yeah. I put the cuffs on him. Yeah. So I'm like, um, he's like, what are you doing? I'm like, yeah, I know the plan. I know what's going on. And I've got, I got to get you in custody. I said, cause I don't have any collateral for you. And this is just too big. This is a big risk that I'm taking. I'm just kind of starting off.
So he's like, so I had my other bell bomb buddy transport him to the jail and I met him at the jail. We do all the paperwork and he's like, don't do me like this. And Because we had a relationship, like a personal relationship, friendship. And so I'm like, at the end of the day, this is still my business, you know. So I go.
You got three kids.
I got three kids. I got a responsibility. I got a responsibility. So I go out to Vegas and then family's calling like, oh, we need him out. Mom's going to pass away. And, you know, I have a really big heart. I cannot stand this heart of mine, but I do. I have a really big heart. So. I'm like, mom, mom's saying she's gonna make sure he gets there. But mind you, mom's co-defendant.
Yeah, mom's co-defendant. Yeah, so, but I'm still trusting her. She's talking about God and this God-fearing woman. So I let her play on me. Yeah, she played on me. So I go get the joker again.
Distributing.
Yeah. The God-fearing woman. The God-fearing woman. Okay. Exactly.
All right.
So I go get him again after I get back from Vegas. Another $89,500. Yeah.
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Chapter 5: How do tips play a role in catching fugitives?
So where is he? Like, are you getting leads? Are you like, oh, he's in Vegas or he's in LA?
So they're like, oh, he's in Tampa. He's in the Highland Pines area. Oh, he's in Ocala. He's in Gainesville.
You at least know he's here.
He's here. He hasn't left Florida. Doesn't have the means to run. Okay. You got to have money and resources.
He's forking out eight grand roughly every time. He's got some money.
Well, I will tell you, I work with people. I let them do payment plans. So- Yeah, he should have had all of it, but he didn't have all of it. So, yeah, he, you know, so he's going from different places and I'm getting all these different tips. So I'm like, you know what, let me put this stuff out on social media. They don't like when they're all over social media.
So I'm like, oh, I found my little niche with that. Like, okay, you guys don't like that. So he's sending words back to me through the street. So me and him are kind of arguing through social media.
Yeah.
So what are you putting out there?
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Chapter 6: What strategies are used for tracking down skips?
Oh, okay.
So you know what this reminds me of? We had a bondsman before. No, we had a bounty hunter before. Have you ever heard of Stephanie Plum?
Mm-mm.
He didn't... Listen, she works for a bail bondsman, so she's whatever the guy, the bounty hunter. She's a bounty hunter. Okay. They're novels. Mm-hmm. And... Yeah, it's a series of novels. And I mean, I read like 13 of them.
Wow.
Of course, I was locked up at the time.
Right, right, right.
But, you know, and they're silly. It's very pop-ish, you know. Right. But they had all of them when I was locked up. And it's a woman who was broke. And she had an uncle who was a bail bondsman. And she came in and said, look, let me work for you. And they're like, what are you, 110 pounds? Ooh. And she's in New Jersey. She's got a little attitude and the whole thing.
But this is... Listen, but you're the black Stephanie Plum. Yeah. Listen, I'll send you the books. They're hilarious.
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Chapter 7: How does the relationship with clients affect the bail process?
Right.
You know, mace. You don't want to just shoot somebody. It's kind of just like law enforcement. But if they are armed, you have the right to do what you have to do. So he was not armed, and he had no choice but to give up. So they took him in custody. They drove him down here to Hillsborough County. And I just put on a show at the jail.
I let the jail know, hey, this guy's been on the run for like eight months. I'm going to record this. So, and so they were, we all just got some good laughs and gags at the jail that night. So we waited a couple hours for him to get here. And so I'm recording him walking up and he is mad as hell. I'm like, dude, you're like, I was trafficking and fencing all like you ran off on me.
So I'm like, Hey, 152,000. So I'm like, do you want to say something for the Instagram? And he's like, leave me alone, Shay. And so I'm like, um, you know, I got to do this to you because you really have driven me crazy for eight months. So we get in there and I'm like, listen, put some respect on Duke Svalbard name. Like don't, don't ever try us. Like don't, don't do us like that.
So we're recording and me and the jail officer, we're laughing and stuff. And, um, He was just like, you know, I'm sorry. I said, yeah, yeah, you're sorry that you got caught. You know, I said, I said, it's all good. I said, we got you in custody now. Then I can get my money back. So that that that was a that went through the city like, oh, my God.
She ended up getting him like that was big for me. All the bail bonds were calling me. You ended up getting him. How did you get him? I said, well, I'm not going to tell you my resources, you know. But yeah, I ended up getting him. I'm very persistent and I'm going to work those tips like I'm going to get that person. I'm not going to let them just get off like, no, I need my money back.
What ultimately did he end up getting found guilty?
So he's still going through the process. So he goes to court in June, like for just a status review, I've been following the case. So he'll probably go to pretrial this year, but I don't have a date of when he'll go to pretrial. So I'm definitely following the case, but he was facing like 15 to 20 years before he ran. Yeah. We shall see what mom in.
Is his mom still out?
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Chapter 8: What are the challenges of being a bail bondsman?
Okay. Yes. So I'm like, wow, that's a person's whole salary. So I'm like, I'm going to get this approved through the insurance company. So we go through the process of getting a signer that was retired, a great signer. He's ex-military, good dude, never been in any trouble before. So we get him qualified for a $375,000 bond with no collateral.
So the guy in jail has someone on the outside that will sign for it and guarantee it.
Exactly. So mom signs for him. And so she's like, well, how do I get the $37,500 to you? I was like, you can wire it. So I give her the information to the account. The next couple of hours, I'm like, whoa, thirty seven thousand five hundred is in my account. So I'm like, I'm going to quit the school district. This is what I'm thinking in my head. I'm getting a whole person's salary and one.
And then the phone keeps ringing with more and more bonds like I'm going to be able to quit this. So. But I had 17 years in with the school district, so I just couldn't do that, you know?
Oh, yeah. What is it? Don't you get 20 or is it 25?
It's 20, 25. Yeah, it's 25. Yeah. So I'm like, I was so sick of the school district. It's just not what it used to be. So that particular bond just kind of made me look at life a little bit differently. Like, whoa. I can pay this off. I can pay this up, you know. So I ended up getting the guy approved, and we wrote the bond out. Like I said, money came.
Mom ended up getting an ankle monitor for him. He had to wear ankle monitors so we can monitor wherever he's at, you know.
Right.
And so he ended up getting released or whatever. So from that day forward, my phone just continued to ring with more and more bonds. And so I'm like- Wait, are you advertising? Google. And then word of mouth. And I will tell you, I worked at the alternative school in the district. That's the-
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