Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Felon Entrepreneur Shares How to Become a Millionaire After Prison
18 Oct 2025
Chapter 1: What challenges did Nathan face during his childhood?
that's why i think i'm so smart because i never went to school so i've been to prison about 15 years altogether i've been in prison four different times back to back like all i want to do is i want to document from me getting out to when i'm multi multi-millionaire and be like look it's all on tape so that's what i started doing when i got out of prison i'm down to zero dollars now basically like i drive out to tampa
On a hope and a dream. I was born in Catskill, New York. I had a brother, older brother. I had a mother up until about like 10 years old. Came down to, she ended up getting really sick. And we came to Florida. She found out she had like hepatitis C. And back then they didn't have a treatment. So when I came down here, she started like losing her hair. It was like bedridden and everything.
And I just went off the deep end. She started like smoking dope. Gone. She was gone out of my life. I was like 10 or 11. I stopped going to school. Sixth grade was like the last grade I even went to. Where was your dad? Never had a dad. He was in prison. I remember meeting him one time on Easter, like years and years and years ago, but never really had a dad. Why was he in prison?
I can't even tell you, man. I just never even thought about that part of my life. Not in a bad way, just never had even considered a dad. It was just like, I don't have a dad. No, you know what I mean? And came to Florida. My mom started smoking dope, and I just started running the streets. I was around a lot of drug dealers and everything. Started breaking in houses.
I ended up getting addicted to drugs, too. I started smoking dope with my mom. I was like 11 or 12 years old. Like, yeah. It kills me. Like freaking, I'm talking about crack. Like we're smoking dope and I'm 12 years old. My wife was 11 or 12 when she first smoked fucking meth with her, with her, like her stepmother. It's like, what are you thinking? Yeah.
And yeah, that's really basically how it went. And I started getting locked up back then. What was the first time you got locked up? Like 12, 12 years old.
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Chapter 2: How did Nathan's family situation influence his path to crime?
I think I broke in. My friend's mom had some weed, and we knew about the weed. Broke in her house, took the weed. She ended up calling the cops. They came there, whatever. I got arrested. They ended up dropping the charges because she was trying to say other stuff was stolen, but we just took the weed. Still wrong, nevertheless, you know what I mean? So ended up going to juvenile there.
They released me in Pasco County. They have a rule like you do 21 days and you get out. Right. But I'm so young that I would get out for 21 days. I'll just do another crime. And I would get back. I'm talking about I had about 40, maybe 40, 50 felonies on my juvenile record for real. But they couldn't put me in. They couldn't put me in anything because I was so young, like 12, 13.
Um, they couldn't give you six months in a, in a juvie. Oh, so y'all, it was literally 21 days and I would get out and I knew how to like, um, so if you go to an arraignment and you say like, um, like you plead guilty or whatever, then they could put you for a camera, what they call it, but staffing for, for kids. So then they say, okay, you're going to a program, then they can hold you.
But I would never go to court because I knew this. So I'll get out 21 days and I'll run. Right. They would catch up to me. Do 21 days. Court would never come up. So I did this for you for a couple of years till I was 16, 16 years old, 16th birthday, adjudicated me. I was in juvenile, 16, when I slapped the county. Boom, went to county jail, 16.
And then that was like the start of my criminal career. You said you went to county jail. Yes. How much for how much? I ended up, they gave me four years prison. For what, though? Well, I had all these charges as I was- You just kept raking up the charges, so it's like multiple, and these are all like burglaries? Everything, like you name it. Burglaries, shoplifting, car, anything.
It wasn't like I was just running rampant. Took a bunch of guns. We had a bunch of assault rifles and AK. It was like some real deals, like some crazy stuff, and I didn't know what I was doing. It wasn't like I was running like a gangster or nothing like that. I'm just a kid just freaking- wreaking havoc. So when you robbed the guy for the guns, how old were you? I was about 13 at the time. Okay.
I was just, at the time, I would go around neighborhoods, scouring neighborhoods. I would dress up real nice. I was still looking like a kid. I didn't want to, like, have clothes that would draw attention to me. Yeah, you look innocent. Nobody expects anything. Yes. And I would go at school time because the best time to do is at school time because all the kids are running around.
But you know that people aren't at home because they go to work. So I go to like blue collar, like upper like upper class, but still like, you know, they go to work. You know, the two cars are gone. The kids are gone. I would look for like basketball hoops because I know kids are there. So they're at school and the people are at work. I ended up like climbing into a window of this house.
And when I went into the house, the first thing that had like I realized that all the doors and everything were barricaded. You couldn't get in or out of the house with only through a window. Everything was deadlocked and there was no handles on the insides of the doors. It was it was not normal. No, no. So first thing I found, I found an AR-15 behind this guy's bed and I'm a kid.
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Chapter 3: What led to Nathan's first arrest?
So I automatically, I pull a blanket off the, or I think I throw the gun on the top of the bed, wrap it up with a blanket and put it by the window because I got to crawl back out the window. And then as I started looking more, I found we had an AR-15. I found an SKS, a Mossberg 12-gauge pump. I found a .45 Thompson, which is a Tommy gun.
And I'm just finding all these rants, so I'm just keep putting them in the blanket, putting them in the blanket. What is this place? Is this like a—oh, sorry, go ahead. No, no, no, no, no. So at the time, I didn't know. It was just a house. So I take a bunch of the guns back. I think at that time I had about three or four guns. I climb out the window.
I'm scared, but I'm walking down the street with his blanket. I'm just, yeah, I'm like walking down the street. I go to my brother. My brother, we're at this chick's house. We had partied the night before. My brother's like five years older than me. So he was like 17 at the time. He might've been 18 and I was 13. I was, you know what I mean? And I say, hey, there's a bunch of guns. Let's go back.
So we go back and get the rest of the guns. There ended up being seven of them. And, um, that was the, that was, so, so what happened was the guy was a military weapons specialist for the, for the Marines. Okay. Yeah. And, um, so it was a big deal, uh, in the papers, news, everything. They put a reward for the guns. They're like, Hey, we need to get these off the streets.
Um, so I guess, so the guy I was chilling with name was Jeremy. He was my neighbor, um, on like a corner. It was like a little apartment building in the corner from where I was staying at with my mom. Now my mom was sick at the time. She had hepatitis. She had like a, I don't know the stages of hepatitis, but she was, she was gone, whatever.
And so my neighbor ended up, I guess the feds came to my neighbor's house. I didn't notice at the time. How did they get there? Someone called. I have no idea. Maybe he, because there's a reward. Oh, okay. So this is what I'm guessing. I don't really know exactly how it all transpired. All I know is he had his house wired for sounding cameras, and they were watching us.
But prior to, like, he even had his house sound or wired, my brother ended up getting robbed for the guns. Because we're kids, you know what I mean? Someone pulls up, says he wants to buy the guns. He puts the guns in the truck with the dude. The dude just sticks them up. He's like... Right. They're mine. Yeah. Yeah. So the guns were already gone. So the guy had his house wired, everything.
We already moved on. We're not even thinking about these guns anymore. You know, we've got so much stuff going on. So my neighbor ends up setting like they don't have the evidence to get us, but maybe they do. We're at Walmart. You know, I'm reading this on the discovery later on. Like once you get, you know, we got caught for the crime.
Once you get caught, you get a discovery that shows everything that happened. And come to find out, the feds were, like, following us. They were at Walmart one time. They were, like, ready to jump out with all these things. But we didn't have no guns or anything. So come to find out. We ended up telling ourselves. Right. So they couldn't find anything, whatever. So they just, feds came to us.
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Chapter 4: How did Nathan's time in prison change his perspective?
And I'm like, okay. You know what I mean? But again, I was so young. I just went to JDC 21 days. I was out. My brother ended up going to prison. So the feds ended up didn't pick it up. State ended up picking it up. And my brother ended up getting like six years in prison for that. Jesus. He's out now. But he was an adult.
So thank God he even got that because that was like a... Yeah, these are machine guns, right? Yeah, these are real deal machine guns. Yeah. Yeah. And that was like the first time I really, really got in trouble. I wonder what that charge would have been in the feds. It's funny because most charges are worse in the fed. But some charges, you're better off in the state.
Like they'll give you two years. The feds would give you 10, you know? So I was one. But a machine gun in the feds, I think it's probably like 10 years. Probably, yeah. It's probably... Probably would have been worse if he had been gone federal. Yeah, this was back in like 2000 or something. So I don't even, I don't even, man, it was a big deal. He got six years. How much time did he do?
I think he ended up doing like four. He got, I'm pretty sure he got charged as a youthful offender for that because he was 18. Okay. He might've been 17. It was a long time ago, but he got charged as a youthful offender. So they like break it up. So I think, I think he ended up getting like four years and two years. And that's how that, but I ended up, I just got out.
I ended up getting nothing for the. Right. For the charge. I was a juvenile. You're just a kid. Yeah. And not even like a 17 year old kid. You're like a kid, kid. You're like. Yeah. Yeah. I was living crazy. Yeah. So, so what happened? What happened after that? All right, so my brother goes to prison.
That was the time, like, my life really, like, because once my brother, remember, I was with my brother this whole time. We came to Florida. My mom got sick. You know, stuff was going down. My brother goes to prison. And that's actually when I think I started dibbling and dabbling in cocaine with my mom because my brother wasn't there.
Because I don't remember doing that when my brother was there now in recollection. Right. Because my mom had been sick. So my brother goes to prison. I'm by myself. You know what I mean? And I start doing drugs with my mom. Your mom's deteriorating. She's getting worse. She's got to take care of you. So she just figured start selling drugs. Yeah. That's the way to survive. No, no electric.
I grew up with no electric. It was like candles. I used to take a shower at the neighbors. Like we had an old people's apartment complex behind our house. And I would literally have to like run across the field and take a shower in the pool. Because of the hot water. Because we didn't have no electric or anything like that. Grass was about five feet high in the yard. Right.
I remember I had a school bus coming to pick me up. And I would run down the street. I'd run and jump up in the morning, take a shower. This is like the first... Before, because I didn't even complete sixth grade, so this was probably around there, about sixth grade, beginning of sixth grade.
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Chapter 5: What challenges did Nathan face upon entering prison?
So he hires her because he likes me, right? He's like, this is going to help. This is going to benefit you. You're in jail. She's got a job now. Maybe she could send you money or at least put money on the phone and all this other stuff, right? So I get to prison. I get to do this. Oh, hold on. Prior to this, though, we're talking on the phone, and she keeps talking about my boss, right?
And I'm like, it was weird. I'm like, she's like, oh, he's so great. It was just a little. I'm like, what are you like? What are you like screwing him or something?
Chapter 6: How did Nathan's mindset shift during his time in prison?
No, why would you try me like that? So I get to prison. Once she found out I had the 43 month. Yeah. Get to prison. Oh, like going through reception. It's wintertime. They don't give you nothing. You don't have no sweater or nothing in reception when you get to prison. So you get like a little jacket. It's probably like the same material this is.
And you're like literally like you're a worst time. I'm probably like one of the worst times I went through in my life. And no phone, no nothing. So anyways, I finally get to my main camp.
Chapter 7: What entrepreneurial ventures did Nathan pursue after prison?
I'm at Franklin. I get a letter. Hey, I'm with your boss. We're getting divorced. I'm like, okay. Right. Okay. I can't even say nothing. All right. And I was left on my own in prison. That was it. No help, no more. I was feeling pretty sorry for myself. Yeah. I was just like, you know, like, God, why would you do this to me? I gave my life to you. For all the two weeks. Yeah.
I was solid for two weeks straight, except for this annex issue. Like, wow. And the domestic violence call. Other than that, there was a good solid six days. I did good. I did good. And so that's how, so I was feeling sorry for myself. And I got to throw this in there because this is an integral part of the story right here. So when I get to prison, a guy hands me a magazine. All right.
And it's a victorious living magazine. And if anybody's been in prison, there's like they're circulated to like two, three thousand prisons within the nation.
Chapter 8: How did Nathan's experiences shape his approach to success?
It's a huge prison magazine. It's a Christian based magazine, but it has like stories of faith and whatever. And they're like, this guy, Corey, in this magazine, he was just in this prison. He's getting out. He's a pastor of a church, got a beautiful wife. He's doing all these great things. And he just left this prison. And I picked up the magazine.
And I'm just like, oh, I'm going to meet this guy. I'm going to get out and get with this guy right here. And I closed the magazine. And I just forgot that. So then as we're going, I had this revelation. I was feeling so sorry for myself that my wife left me and everything. And I didn't have nobody. Because I was just like, you know what? I'm going to just take responsibility for my life.
Self and my life. I say, you know what? I'm here because this never had occurred to me before. It was like a new concept. I say, you know what? I put myself here. And it was like, once I did that, it was like something opened up inside of me. I'm like, holy stuff, man. Like I put myself in. Nobody's fault but my own.
And, like, all the self-development bullets just, like, came back, like, at once. Bam. And I'm like, dude, I can't keep blaming it. I said, you know what? I don't need nothing from nobody. That's the day my life changed right there. I was smoking cigarettes when I first came in there. I threw the cigarettes away. I didn't smoke no more cigarettes or nothing. I was like, I'm going hard. That's it.
I started working out. I'm talking about... And I just... just kept to the script, man, every day, just working out. And then I decided like, okay, I need to get some money. So how do I get some money? I'm like, I'm gonna start selling coffee. So Wayne got me a bag of coffee, bombed it up, made 15 bombs. A bomb's like where you take the little kitchen glove finger.
So you'll get the glove from the kitchen, which is a plastic. It's not a vinyl or a latex. Put the coffee in there. And I made one bag of coffee into 15 bombs. You get 15 soups. You get a soup a piece and a bag of coffee. It costs $10. So then I just kept doing it and doing it and doing it. And then, like, next thing you know, I'm exercising. I got, like, seven, eight, nine lockers full of food.
Like, just, like, for you guys, to be frank, I have a huge store. I have thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars of canteen. I'm sending money to my baby mama. I got, you know, I'm sending money to my baby mama not because I like her or whatever, but for my son for, like, Christmas and stuff like that. Not that I don't like my baby mama, just if you're watching. But, yeah.
you never even mentioned that you had gotten somebody pregnant yeah so while yeah so while while all this ripping and running is going on about three prison sentences ago I met this chick who was actually like a co-defendant not a co-defendant as a prison but like we used to like trap together and stuff like that his sister and I met her
We were together for like a month, and I go to jail, prison, whatever. And I get a phone call or, well, no, a letter. Yeah, probably a letter. Like, hey, I'm pregnant, whatever. I'm like, oh, man. So I called her. She's like, what do you want me to do? I said, well, have the kid. I don't want you to abort the kid, whatever. And so she's like, all right.
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