Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hacker Uncovers Boeing’s Darkest Corporate Secrets
06 Dec 2025
Chapter 1: What does comfort mean to the speaker?
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I got fired from Boeing. I've never shared this, but three years ago, I hacked his computer. He has hidden files in there. Come to find out, this guy is... Are you serious? I remember hearing conversations back when I worked there that Airbus is...
What were you doing for Boeing?
I worked as a software engineer for them. Started out as a software engineer and quickly shifted over to hacking.
Why and how does that work?
Yeah, so Boeing was really growing in tech wise and they wanted to shift like their young talent to kind of learn different things. And so they were like, hey, you want to switch to this team to learn about hacking? It's like, heck yeah. You know, cause one, one of the guys explained to me, he's like the best developers know both sides of technology.
They know how to hack it and they know how to create it. And so I knew how to create it, but I never understood the hacking side. And so once they moved me over to this team. They sent me to like SANS conferences. And so... SANS conference, I don't know what that is. A conference for hackers.
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Chapter 2: What was the speaker's role at Boeing?
So these are hackers. These aren't people that work for the airport. This is some hacker who's sitting there with his laptop and waiting for you to try and log in to check your bank account. So he could try and get your information from your bank account so that now he can hack in and he could maybe move money around or contact you and say, hey, I know you're with Wells Fargo. Right.
You know, we're all from Wells Fargo. You know, we just noticed that. Yeah. You know, that's like there's that scam that's going on around right now. You know what I'm talking about? It's where someone contacts you. They use a spoof app and they contact you and they say, hi, I'm calling from Wells Fargo, you know. And they know how many accounts you have.
They know enough to convince you that you're with Wells Fargo. Yeah. So they're like, hey, we noticed your personal checking account. Recently, you went to go pay for something for $500 about 20 minutes ago, but it was in Chicago. Was that you? Mm-hmm. And, you know, just checking because it came up on our software. And they're like, no, that wasn't me at all.
They're like, okay, well, we're going to go ahead and reverse the transaction. But real quick, we're going to go ahead and send you a PIN.
Chapter 3: How did the speaker transition from software engineering to hacking?
So I'm going to send you a PIN just to verify that it's you. And then you're like, oh, okay. And then you get the PIN. Well, what they're doing right now is trying to log on to your Wells Fargo. And Wells Fargo verifies it by sending you a PIN. You the PIN. You the PIN. Right. So they get the PIN. You tell them, oh, it's 99625. And they go, 99625. Yep. Okay. Thank you.
We just wanted to make sure it was you. All right. If anything goes wrong, we'll call you back. Don't worry about it. It's going to take us about 20, 30 minutes to take care of this. So we'll contact you if we need anything else. Otherwise, you'll see it on your app. And now what do they do is they send, they immediately take 500 bucks from you. And then they wait.
Then they come, they call you back and they go. Listen, another transaction is trying to go through. We're going to need to close your account and start another account for you. It'll be a personal checking, but we're going to go ahead and need you to authorize that. We're going to send you another PIN. They send you another PIN. You give it to them. Oh, it's 720-5503. They go, okay.
And then they transfer like $3,000 out of your account. Yeah. And then they say, well, don't worry. You're going to be notified. We're going to send you an email, whatever. And then if that goes through, then they call you back like 20, 30 minutes later and they go, hi, listen, this is a real problem. Whoever it is, stop our ability to transfer the PIN. money. They've just taken $3,000 from you.
But don't worry, we're reversing that. But I'm going to go ahead and need you to verify your identity again. We're sending you a PIN. You give it to them again. These people literally will drain $80,000, $100,000, $150,000 from your account because once those go through... And you're talking to someone, you think, from Wells Fargo.
And if you look on your phone, it says Wells Fargo because they're using a spoof app. Right. No matter what, they've got you so convinced and they're transferring. They will keep transferring money until the real Wells Fargo goes, what's going on?
Right.
They just authorize these transfers. Well, yeah, I'm talking to you guys right now.
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Chapter 4: What are common hacking techniques discussed?
You're calling right now from your security, whatever, your fraud department. So we're from the fraud department. Yeah. What are you talking about? Nobody's sending you a pen, you know? So yeah, that's huge. But people are always like, well, how do they even know that I'm from Wells Fargo? Or that I have a Wells Fargo account? They knew I had a business account and a checking account.
They knew I had two savings accounts. They said the specific one that's being attacked is this one. Yeah. Well, then obviously that's the kind of thing that they're getting through the packages or somehow or another they're figuring it out.
Well, they don't even have to do that. They can just send you emails. They could just reach out to you. They can have you fill out a form where they can get your emails. Like that stuff's easy. It's easy to buy information nowadays. But, you know, people freely give up their information. They don't even realize what they're doing.
I check about everybody that sends me anything. Yeah. I immediately check the email where it's coming from. Right. You know, it's like coming from like Croatia.
Yeah, exactly.
Or it's coming from Zimbabwe or something or something. I'm like, stop it.
So a lot of people get their Instagram accounts hacked because they think that it's coming from Instagram. But what you need to do is actually look at the verify that the email is actually correct because they might put INSS. T-A-A-G-R-A-M dot com. One letter. One letter. And you're like, oh yeah, it is from Instagram. Okay, let me click this link. Let me verify the text, the pin.
Put that pin in. That got sent to my phone. Now they have your information. Now they're in your account and they close it and all sorts of stuff.
Or they'll do something like Instagram contact. They'll just throw another word in there that seems reasonable. I see Instagram. It's got to be right.
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Chapter 5: What lessons can be learned from the experiences shared in Compton and Los Angeles?
Don't come to Compton or Los Angeles trying to be— Fake like you're a tough guy.
Right. Don't do that because that's what you're going to get met with is that type of energy. But I've seen some of the most brilliant people where I'm from. It's like the guy—you know those three—those bikes where you kind of sit in the seat and there's two wheels in the back and one in the front?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. It's like a motorcycle car thing. Yeah, yeah. What do they call them? I don't know what they call them. The Tri's or something like that.
Across the street from my apartment was the guy who manufactured those originally. Black guy. Manufactured those. White people will come to Compton and pick up their bike that he manufactured. They're coming from Redondo Beach. They're coming from all these more wealthier areas to the hood in Compton, picking up their bikes because he manufactured them for them.
You know, obviously somebody, you know, probably patented it now, but anyways, he was the guy who first started building those.
I just, I'm sorry. I just, I immediately went to, I shouldn't drink coffee. No, well, I just immediately, I watched a TikTok today that was like, like, if this is true, like I haven't heard this before, where it's basically just talking about some guy with an alternative energy and, And like he had, they'd done something and then boom, he disappeared.
Some other guy, so another guy on the project, bam, fell out of a window. Another guy, like it was like three people in a row that were a part of this program that they had had some breakthrough with like some kind of, you know, whatever plasma energy or whatever it was. I don't know what it was, but it was just, it's kind of like the guy where I was thinking about the guy, um,
who made the, some engine that ran on water or something. You ever heard about that guy? A couple guys did that. Disappeared. All of them disappeared. All of them disappeared. Their work disappears. Everything disappears. Like, you know,
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Chapter 6: How does technology impact job security and the economy?
Terrifying.
You shift the economy. You shift the need. You mess up the supply and demand when you do stuff like that. Yeah. No need for gasoline.
Yeah. Well, it's the same thing.
Who you're affecting?
Well, I mean, people don't realize like when they dumped, when COVID happened and they dumped all that money into the economy. Yeah. And they're giving away money. Like, and then, and then I remember when it was happening, I was like, You can't just print money. Like, I was like, this is going to cause... You can, but it causes inflation.
And I was thinking, this is going to cause a massive amount of inflation. Oh, yeah. And sure enough, now it took a few years, you know, years later, now we've got this massive inflation and people, you know, and part of that is because we printed so much fucking money. But that's not new.
Yeah.
Well, I know that, but I mean... inflation isn't new, but the amount of inflation is you, you dumped how many trillions of dollars into the economy and it takes a few years, but then suddenly, suddenly milk isn't $3 and 50 cents. It's, it's $5 and 50 cents. And, you know, so, you know, there's a, there's always, and if, just like if you suddenly said, Hey, guess what? We don't need cars anymore.
Like, okay, well that's tons of people out of work. And people think, oh, okay, so everybody at this factory is now out of work. Well, that's only 10,000 people.
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Chapter 7: What insights are shared about the education system and financial literacy?
And you're barely trained enough to save enough money to pay your bills every single month. Barely. And most people can't. Not everybody can do that, by the way. If you're lucky, you can do that. And if you can do that, you can almost be middle class.
You said something so powerful because they do not teach us how to live life. Yeah. They teach us how to survive, survive and surviving in this system is slavery, in my opinion. Like you should be learning about how to manage money, how to learning about credit. This should be taught in school because the moment you get out of school, you're already in debt, right? If you took out loans.
So you don't even know how that affects you. So now you try to apply for credit cards and stuff like that. You don't even know how to leverage them properly. You don't know the tactics. You don't know the factors that even make up a FICO score.
You don't need to know any of that to work at Walmart.
You don't. Right. But... That's why you're working at Walmart. If you knew better, you probably wouldn't. You probably have a better opportunity to actually even approach how you want to make money.
Right.
You know, they don't teach us how to invest. They don't teach us any of these things. You learn it after you get out of school that you spent, you know, most of your life. And or 18, 12 years, is that what people are spending most of the time on average? 12 years in school or if you went to college, like 14 years, 16 years, something like that.
Yeah, roughly, I'd say 12. But if you want to include, you know, kindergarten and some other ones, let's say 12 years for your basic, your minimum school to get a high school 12 years.
Exactly. So my my perspective is educate this educational system has failed miserably. us all because we need to learn that experience is the best teacher going in the environment and actually experiencing it. Like when I, when I learned about software engineering, it was a bunch of theory. When I started working at Boeing, they were like, I had to go to take classes.
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Chapter 8: How did the speaker transition from working at Boeing to creating Credit Fixer?
And that they're not trying to make entrepreneurs and they're not trying to get you fiscally responsible or having you understand credit. Mm-hmm. Because you might be able to, you know, if they did that in limited areas, that's not going to be a massive change. But if they did that throughout the entire economy, right, then I think that would be a massive change for the economy.
And if you're in manufacturing or you're some large, if you're Google or you're Amazon or Apple or IBM or anything, you don't really... We don't really want that. We want a few people to excel, which we can hire and train, and that's it. We want everybody else to be factory workers and drive trucks and have – we need some workers, which they're failing at. They need more workers.
But that's not a hard fix. It's not a super hard fix. So you don't want too many people knowing it because then they can – then those people could kind of break out of those molds. And like I said, we need cashiers. We need people to stock shelves.
Do it.
Right. I mean, I think we do until you get robots.
It's already there. It's already there. Well, I mean, technology is actually forcing us to actually change the way we do things because how we decide. See, mathematics is always true.
Right.
OK. A lot of times we don't make. decisions off of truth. We base decisions off of emotions or, you know, ego or a lot of these different things, but not off of, you know, the truth, if that makes sense. And mathematics can be proven in no limited time. You can say, hey, no, mathematically, this is what we should do for the betterment of everybody. You know what I mean?
As far as like, so hear me out.
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