Jeff Grant

We had no money.

Right.

And I was, so I went to New York law school in Manhattan and I was working selling shoes, putting myself through school.

And by the time I became a senior in my third year of law school, I was selling shoes at Paul Stewart, which is one of the nicest men's stores on Madison Avenue.

And I was in the shoe department and I was meeting people who were like the

I remember I was waiting on these two gentlemen and they were dressed beautifully.

You know, I mean, the suits then and the shoes then were expensive.

Now they're super expensive.

And they're sitting next to each other and they're kind of fooling around.

And I'm helping them with their shoes.

And I said to one of them, let me kind of wrap this up.

And he said, sure.

And he handed me his credit card.

And his credit card said, president of Pepsi-Cola.

on the credit card.

And I'm saying, are you the president of Pepsi Cola?

And he looks at the guy next to him and he was like this.

He goes, that's nothing.

This is the chairman of the board.

And so these are the people who I'm selling shoes to.