Jeff Guenther

And it doesn't mean that there's like cheating or financial infidelity going on.

It just means that like it's okay if you want some safety and privacy.

It's a question that I'll ask at the beginning of a relationship.

It's like, let's get on the same page or are we on the same page when it comes to financial transparency?

transparency and a lot of times most times I'd say is that couples when they are faced with this question they do want a certain amount of privacy and as long as they agree to it then we're golden or if you're not agreeing to it then there needs to be some sort of like acceptance around it and understanding that this doesn't mean that you're leading a secret life and there's a betrayal involved yeah

Yeah.

I mean, financial trauma is real, right?

We have childhoods that...

are very much affected by money.

And so I think that's where typically when somebody is feeling betrayed because their partner isn't being financially transparent at nine out of 10 times, it's because of financial trauma.

And so we need to be able to like hold the space to be nonjudgmental and understanding and curious and compassionate.

And then it becomes harder to contain.

Yeah, I think more often than not, more than 50% of the time, I do see financial secrecy like being exposed and it being an avenue to more transparency, which leads to more trust, which leads to like more healing relationships and closeness.

As long as you can understand that the financial secrecy is likely not about you and it's about something in the past.

and that you want to create a healing relationship with your partner who you love, that you don't want to feel judged, then a lot of times it turns out well.

Yeah, it was really fun.

I actually love talking about this subject.

Yeah, I'm happy to see you.

Yeah, I'm happy to see you.

I respect that. Do what you got to do to get through this very difficult time.