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Jeff Guo

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Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

Jeff, to understand this piece of it, we actually have to go back in time a few decades.

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

Back then, in a lot of places, including in Ohio, utility companies were in charge of the entire process of getting electricity to customers.

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

So generation, transmission, and distribution, all vertically integrated in one utility.

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

So some companies would be in charge of distribution.

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

Other companies would be in charge of transmission.

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

And still other companies would be in charge of power generation.

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

The idea was deregulation.

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

You'd get more competition and hopefully that would make electricity prices come down.

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

If we were starting a system from scratch today, would we design the one that we have now?

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

Like on a really hot day in the summer.

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

If everybody turns on their air conditioners on August 17th and there's not enough power to supply it, what happens?

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

Now, before deregulation, when it was one utility company's responsibility to handle everything for a particular area, distribution, transmission and generation, it was that company's responsibility to make sure there were no shortages, you know, no rolling blackouts.

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

They had to forecast how much power they would need in the future and make sure there were enough power plants to meet that future demand.

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

Yeah, think about what happens in a market when there is a shortage of something.

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

Prices, they go way, way up.

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

In theory, that should incentivize companies to start making more power, and eventually everything would be fine.

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

But A, nobody wants to get an electric bill for $1,000 because they ran their AC on a super hot day.

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

And B, rolling blackouts are also obviously not a great outcome.

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

This new market would make sure that enough new power plants were being built today to supply the electricity that would be needed years from now.

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

They called it the capacity market.