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Jeff Guo

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
588 total appearances

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Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

Insurance is basically a technology to transfer risk from one person to another, from one place to another, from me to my insurance company, from my insurance company to a reinsurance company.

Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

Catastrophe bonds are kind of the next evolution of that.

Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

They let insurance companies take some of the risks they're facing, the risk of a giant hurricane or earthquake, and transfer those risks onto a crowd of investors around the world.

Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

Yeah, I mean, why not even a cat bond for a worldwide pandemic?

Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

Michael Bennett works on these kinds of creative financial ideas at the World Bank.

Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

There's actually a fancy Wall Street term for getting creative.

Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

It's called structured finance.

Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

And Michael actually got his start at a bunch of those fancy Wall Street firms.

Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

How thick are the carpets at the World Bank?

Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

Yeah, yeah.

Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

At the World Bank, the goal is not to make money.

Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

It is to fight poverty.

Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

So in 2016, he and his team came up with a creative new use for catastrophe bonds to share the risk of pandemics.

Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

They basically went around designing their own custom pandemic insurance policy.

Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

At the top of that list of threats was, of course, Ebola.

Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

Also on the list was pandemic influenza, like the type that swept through the world right after World War I, as well as, you know, a couple other types of viruses.

Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

The World Bank went around to investors asking them, hey, do you want to bet against a pandemic caused by one of these six types of viruses?

Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

So investors agreed that if a global pandemic happened in the next few years, some or all of those $300 million would go to the World Bank to help developing countries.

Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

And in the meantime, the World Bank would be paying them a decent amount of interest, like tens of millions of dollars a year.

Planet Money
How hurricanes became a hot investment

But then came the winter of 2020.