Jeff Hathorne

And a unique thing that they do at NFL Films is when you start there,

especially if you're young and fresh out of college, they assign a mentor to you.

And my mentor was a fellow Mount Lebanon graduate a couple years older than me who had been there for a while named Keith Cosgrove.

He is still there.

He is now the head of content for NFL Films, and he's the one that reached out to me about this project.

So it's kind of a full circle moment for me.

He's meant so much to me in my career.

He's taught me so much.

And now to be able to work with him again on this has really been a fulfilling project for me.

Oh, you're putting me on the spot there.

There have been so many...

great, great sports documentaries over the years.

The 30 for 30s have really captivated me and I think captivated America.

The Two Escobars, I thought, was a tremendous, tremendous film.

One that NFL Films did, which I thought was unique, was The Four Falls of Buffalo, which I know is near and dear to your heart.

But I thought it was

really unique how they positioned that film in a way that, you know, those players kind of watched that stuff back and relived it because when you, when you relive stuff, you usually you're reliving happy moments.

And, and those, that stuff that those guys have had to live with throughout their career.

So to kind of, to kind of tell that story in a way that was,

you know, still positive and uplifting for the Bills and the fans of Buffalo, but, you know, help you really feel and understand the agony of that, I thought was really well done.