Jeff Krasno
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first heard Jan 2025
last heard Mar 2025
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And I would make a little espresso and I would tootle out and be like, oh, good morning. And without fail, as if he didn't know me, and we spent like 30 straight days doing this, he would launch in to the same diatribe about extolling the benefits of the ice and the breath with the same... vim and vigor that he had done the previous day as if I had never heard them.
I mean, you know, on and on and on. And I'm like, I'd always be like... Just nodding my head and kind of amazed. And I was like, this dude, first of all, is responsible for spreading this practice that has been very, very central to my health transformation. But he's essentially Taylor Swift. I mean, he's like playing the hits, man.
He gets up and gives the same performance with the same vibrancy every day. And I really have to hand it to him. He's such a character and so generous. I mean, he was really, really fun to be around. But anyways, his whole practice was in some part inspired by these monks in the Himalayans that would wrap themselves in these 40 degree sheets.
And they would leverage a certain type of breath known as Tummo. to essentially create inner fire, inner heat. And, you know, after 30, 40 minutes, you would start to see, you know, these steam coming up from these freezing cold sheets that they had dunked into a cold river. And then, of course, what did they do? They took that sheet off and they would wrap them in another cold sheet.
And so, like you say... you know, how can we explain with the knowledge that we have at our disposal right now how that is possible, right? How do we engage in that degree of thermogenesis Um, like I can poke at it. Yeah, we've got, you know, the mitochondria in our certain, particularly in this tissue known as brown fat that is like highly thermogenic. Um, and yes, that can access.
glucose but these monks probably didn't have a ton of that so there's probably some stored fat but these guys were pretty lean too so there isn't a ton of like triglycerides to to convert into free fatty acids for you know the purpose of energy and heat creation so we're you know we're what was the lever
in the human mind that was able to produce heat potent enough to dry not one cold sheet, but two cold sheets. And this is a great, of course, the great mystery of, or this is the great sort of, kind of sources of curiosity of like, oh my God, we've just barely begun to learn anything. It's like when you bring a torch out into the vast night sky, what is revealed? Like even more blackness.
So every time you learn something, it reveals, oh my God, how much do I not know? And of course, this is the inexorable march of science. And yeah, I mean, this is why it's so exciting to be alive and be curious. Yeah, infinitely humbling. Yeah, it's like, oh my God, we are just this little delegated adaptability of this massive project.
Yeah, and that's, you know, it's totally humbling. And, you know, science and spirituality... have been unduly cleaved as if they're two different things, but they're not, you know? They both, at their best, evolve and are humble and are always asking why, you know? And challenge and open to modification and new observation. And this is why, you know, Buddhism for me...
And Taoism to some degree and to some degree Zen are my sort of preferred modalities because they're not stagnant. They don't exist in one unmodifiable dusty old scroll. What they're actually... They're built to continually transform and grow with the Sangha. So it's like... In a way, I find Eastern religions and science to be actually one and the same thing in many cases.
Yeah, I mean, I think you point to some
aspect of society right now, which is very, very sad, which is this distension and morbidity that, you know, for the last 15, 20 years of many people's lives, you know, we're essentially limping through life, managing chronic diseases with cocktails of pharmaceuticals that never really address root cause and just sort of mask symptoms for a little bit of time, et cetera.
And, you know, that form of suffering radiates out in so many different ways. I mean, it's obviously the individual that's suffering, but family members and caregivers and the societal expense and the erosion of the importance that we used to put on our elders, you know, these... vessels of accumulated experience that we used to look to for wisdom, now we look to our elders as elderly, right?
And they're often a nuisance, and we just ship them off, you know, whatever. We'd never do that with Confucius or Lao Tzu. So, yeah, I mean, I am not an immortalist. You know, I don't have escape velocity dreams per se. I think on some level we're pre-coded to die. I think life wouldn't be life without death. There sort of exists within a unity of opposites.
But I, you know, Atul Gawande wrote this wonderful book called... It was being mortal, I think it was. And in the book, he said, yeah, we only lived to about 48 or 49 years old at the beginning of the 1900s. But when we died, we just went right off the cliff. We didn't have this extended, protracted period of misery. Yeah.
So what I, my dream and, you know, this came about, this sort of vision came about really in relationship to my children. So I have three girls. And when they were growing up, I read voluminously to them at night. Back when their bedtime was before mine. Now that's flipped, right? Now they're teenagers.
But I would read all those books, you know, Chronicles of Narnia and The Witch of Blackbird Pond, Island Blue Dolphins, like, tons of fairy tales. And like the fairy tales would always generally like include like some scullery made that got three wishes at the end, whatever. So one night I was reading to Micah, she's my littlest one, and she wouldn't go to sleep, couldn't go to sleep.
So she finally like stopped me and said, hey daddy, you know, if you have one wish, if you were a prince, What would your wish be? And, of course, at that juncture, I was like, I wish you'd just go to fucking sleep. And she was like, she's a very little, tiny creature, but she had a very heavy arm, and she would always, like, slap it over me like a parole officer or something.
So I could never, like, I'd always skirt to the edge of the bed, and she's like, I'm not asleep yet. So I was like, okay, okay, well, let me think about it. So... I meditated on that question. And then a couple nights later, I rotated back to Micah after reading to the other girls. And I said, you know, hey, Micah, I think I have an answer to your question. She's like, oh, okay.
Well, Daddy, what would be your one wish? And so I said, okay, Micah. So a long time from now, okay, in the year 2088, I'll be 117 and your mom, you know how I fancy older women, she's going to be 118. And that will be the year that we celebrate 100 years together. And it's not unfathomable. 37 years under our belt at this point, we were together when we were 17 and 18 years old.
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