Jeff Krasno
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350 appearances
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2 series
first heard Jan 2025
last heard Mar 2025
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And the story in that sack went like this, like, I'm just that chubby kid that will do anything to be liked, that'll do anything to fit in. And I really had to get super honest with myself about who I thought I was, and then realize that change is actually possible, that I actually do have agency, that like my fate wasn't just written in the genetic stars.
You know, my whole story was like, I just have the thrifty gene, right? You know, great in a famine, but like really bad for Instagram, you know? And I had to relearn a new story about myself. And that was really key. And then that propelled me into, you know, adopting headfirst, jumping headfirst into these protocols like fasting and cold water therapy and some of the other ones I began to stack.
Yeah, sure. It's the Commune Podcast. And you're absolutely right. I mean, I feel like I am a product of everybody else's wisdom. I don't have any letters.
So I spent a lot of time with this guy, Gabor Mate. This is the wonderful thing about having this retreat center in Topanga is that I get to host a lot of these brilliant people and then distill their wisdom to the best of my ability. And Gabor really opened me to that notion that people, but particularly children, will really sacrifice their authenticity for belonging.
It is reconnecting with your authentic self. So he was really instrumental in helping me sort of tell a new story about myself. And also for me to recognize that in some ways, what was my biggest shortcoming as a child turned into my biggest superpower. And it's crazy. Sometimes the most obvious truths about yourself are just hidden in plain sight. It's like that optic blind spot.
It's like, he was like, well, Jeff, tell me a little bit about what you've done in your life. And I was like, oh yeah, well, I used to put on big concerts in the music industry and help to tour bands. And he's like, oh, okay. So you brought people together? I was like, oh yeah. And then what did you do? Oh, I started Wanderlust. He's like, oh, what's that? Oh, that's a big festival.
oh, so you brought people together? I was like, oh yeah, I guess I did. He's like, well, what's your business now? And we were laughing. It's like, it's called commune. It's like, I bring people together. He's like, that is the thread of your life. Because you value belonging so deeply because of your experiences as a child, you turned your biggest shortcoming into your biggest superpower.
You bring people together. You have to embrace that now. And that was a pretty beautiful eye-opening experience.
You can get it cognitively, but then when you feel it somatically, when you embody that, it's a different form of satori or catharsis.
Totally. And then it was also not completely understanding my own physiology. I mean, I remember sitting down with a Dr. William Lee, who I'm sure you've known. I was like, yeah, well, you know, well, I just have bad metabolism. And he's like sort of smiling at me. And he's like, no, no, no. The variation between people's metabolism on a genetic basis is really, really small.
And that our metabolism naturally doesn't really decline very much at all between ages of 20 and 60. It's actually the accumulation of fat and other things like that that actually then hurt metabolism. But just from a genetic perspective, you know, you got to lose that narrative. Like let that little meme of I have bad metabolism just disappear from your consciousness. And so that was helpful.
And then there was like a bunch of candidly like a spiritual part of my journey that kind of converged with this curiosity around my physiology. And it was the bridging of that, of the mystical and the medical, that I guess propelled a lot of other awakenings in me. You know, this notion, this Buddhist notion, that all we are really is change, that everything is impermanent.
And so clinging or craving to anything is always just going to result in a lot of dukkha, you know, suffering and dissatisfaction. But as applied to human physiology, That really violated my sense of self. I wake up in the morning and I look at Jeff in the mirror and I'm like, there's Jeff. He's a stable, reliable thing. He doesn't really change. He looks more or less the way he looked yesterday.
So there is a sense of self that is really anchored in physical continuity. But as I started to learn more about human physiology, I was like, nothing could be less true. You know, what we are are seven octillion self-assembled atoms having 37 billion billion chemical reactions per second. Literally, all we are is change. I mean, I'm not the same guy that sat down here 20 minutes ago with you.
And really awakening to the fact that I am process and not product was incredibly empowering because that also means that disease is a process. And so if health exists on this spectrum between sort of wholeness, if you will, and disease, I started to feel a tremendous amount of agency around my trajectory on that spectrum.
I could be moving towards wholeness, that is the process of healing, or moving towards disease, the process of ailing. And we have way more agency over our direction than I think we've ever thought before.
I want to just add one more thing about fasting. Yeah. Because there's obviously physical benefits to fasting, but what I found was the most potent benefit of fasting actually might be psychological. Because even though I condensed my consumption of food in that eight-hour window, doesn't mean that I didn't have a hankering for some chips or something at 9 p.m.
And so, but I became completely committed. And like I said, I was a disciple to that practice. So instead of mindlessly wandering off to the pantry or the refrigerator to get some crackers and cheese or whatever, I would actually have to stop and witness the nature of the hunger and actually ask myself, is the origin of this stimulus, of this hunger, a biological need or a psychological desire?
And I really had to be honest and untangle that. And 99.99% of the time, it was a desire and not a need. I've got plenty of warehouse energy here for existence for a while. I was essentially eating my feelings. And I think this is what actually contributes to our 45% obesity rate that we have now in the United States is that we are so psychologically triggered so much of the time.
And you combine that with the always availability of of calories. And then what do you get? You get a really, really disturbing obesity rate. But for me, what I found was the untangling of this, my hunger between this kind of biological need and psychological desire gave me a certain kind of space. in which to make better decisions.
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