Jeff McGregor

The standard is sort of under five minutes, five minutes, five minutes, 20 for sort of a community top ref.

You've done five minutes at the senior level.

super rugby level, which is a good test for that fast-paced endurance.

Sorry, fast-paced fitness.

Not great for endurance, but that's a test.

What's your question?

My question is for him, what's he doing during the week?

They undoubtedly do a Bronco, but he himself will be doing his own work.

So does he do gym work?

Is he doing high-intensity stuff?

Is he doing long stuff?

Yeah, well, is that, who's that?

Nick Berry.

Nick Berry, that's the one.

Nick Berry, yeah.

So he'll definitely be in the gym, but is he doing, like, what's the mix?

Well, so there's a mall that happens a phase beforehand and it breaks away and then another mall is created.

And I think that you'll see that Ben has something in the bank ready to go anyway.

He could see that there was clearly infringements that were happening.

He says it is collapsing the mall, which it's a bit...