Jeff McTainsh

And you weren't presenting those.

You were just literally on the computer cutting.

So just cutting, cutting highlights, mate.

And yeah.

That's kind of where I guess the steps to become a caller at Sky started and that's where I started to put things into place.

They didn't exactly advertise for rugby commentators in the hallways.

And so I started to think, you know, how could I potentially get a crack?

at that.

And, um, it's actually, it's actually the Crusaders.

I've got to think a little bit, certainly early in my career, because when I was at broadcasting school, some of the casual work I did was to go to Jade Stadium and do voice reports on Crusaders games.

Oh yeah.

So that was, that was one of the first gigs I ever had.

And when I was at Sky, um,

I thought, I may as well lay down my voice over a try.

So it was actually a Will Jordan try for the Crusaders.

And I thought, I'll just chuck my voice down on this and send it to the boss and see what happens.

So I can't remember who Will was playing with the Crusaders, but I remember taking the voice track off, laying a voice down and

Jordan for the quarter.

Will Jordan's in.

Beautiful try for Jordan or something like that.