Jeff McTainsh

heading abroad, but it's like, who do you start?

Who do you pick?

How does the Leicester conversation?

I know some people are saying, let's get him in the back row for the All Blacks.

Some people saying, hang on a second, just hold your horses.

He's had a few good games at Super Rugby.

Just hang on.

So, mate, there's a lot of questions.

I think a good result for the All Blacks is obviously winning the test series.

They've got that fourth test in Baltimore as well, but

I mean, I'd just say they'd be wanting to look for an overall tour performance and giving some guys, like I said before, that experience about touring.

And, you know, some of these URC teams that they'll come up against as well, they'll be handy as well.

So I'm looking forward to the midweek matches to see how they go against the likes of the Stormers and the Lions and so on.

So, yeah, it'll be a fascinating tour for sure.

I think the key thing for New Zealand rugby and for the All Blacks is that...

these tours are going to be more frequent, like we're going to start playing the box more and being able to do these tours is only going to strengthen the All Blacks.

And so when we come to a World Cup next year in Australia, we've got a little bit more of an idea about that and the guys will have that bonding experience having travelled together too.

So I think going forward, and as you say, you know, other big tours around the corner with the Lions and whatnot will be good for the All Blacks for sure.

Well, yeah, I think it has to be South Africa.

But, like, this is the fascinating thing, mate.