Jeff Melnick

Yeah, absolutely. And that was really what got me started in during the research was this realization that like every, it felt like every couple months there would be, I'd hear a song or I'd see a new documentary or there'd be a new bit of visual culture. There was this great series of photographs of Barker Ranch that some European photographer did, a real art project.

And I was like, how come we can't leave this guy alone already? Even after Even after he died. And I started thinking there was this great Rolling Stone cover in the 70s about Jim Morrison, another shamanic LA figure. And it was years after Morrison had passed. And the headline, if I'm remembering right, in Rolling Stone said, he's hot, he's sexy, he's dead.

And I was like, how come we can't leave this guy alone already? Even after Even after he died. And I started thinking there was this great Rolling Stone cover in the 70s about Jim Morrison, another shamanic LA figure. And it was years after Morrison had passed. And the headline, if I'm remembering right, in Rolling Stone said, he's hot, he's sexy, he's dead.

And I was like, how come we can't leave this guy alone already? Even after Even after he died. And I started thinking there was this great Rolling Stone cover in the 70s about Jim Morrison, another shamanic LA figure. And it was years after Morrison had passed. And the headline, if I'm remembering right, in Rolling Stone said, he's hot, he's sexy, he's dead.

And I thought about that with Manson because I was like, no matter how long he was in prison and then after he died, we're still trying to figure out what he did. Like the murders we know, the true crime piece we're done with. But the cultural part, I mean, he... ended up feeding so many different strains of popular culture.

And I thought about that with Manson because I was like, no matter how long he was in prison and then after he died, we're still trying to figure out what he did. Like the murders we know, the true crime piece we're done with. But the cultural part, I mean, he... ended up feeding so many different strains of popular culture.

And I thought about that with Manson because I was like, no matter how long he was in prison and then after he died, we're still trying to figure out what he did. Like the murders we know, the true crime piece we're done with. But the cultural part, I mean, he... ended up feeding so many different strains of popular culture.

Like LA, you can't have LA punk in the late 70s and early 80s without Manson. He's all over the musical and visual culture of that moment. Hip hop culture, beginning in the late 80s into the 90s, his name gets, he just becomes like the emblem of kind of

Like LA, you can't have LA punk in the late 70s and early 80s without Manson. He's all over the musical and visual culture of that moment. Hip hop culture, beginning in the late 80s into the 90s, his name gets, he just becomes like the emblem of kind of

Like LA, you can't have LA punk in the late 70s and early 80s without Manson. He's all over the musical and visual culture of that moment. Hip hop culture, beginning in the late 80s into the 90s, his name gets, he just becomes like the emblem of kind of

uncontrollable horror I mentioned before and I'll say again the horror movies of the 1970s all these home invasion movies like that becomes a subgenre in horror that I think is very much inspired by the Manson the two nights of Manson murder of like you can be home you think you're safe and then all of a sudden You got hours of, you know, of horror ending in death in front of you.

uncontrollable horror I mentioned before and I'll say again the horror movies of the 1970s all these home invasion movies like that becomes a subgenre in horror that I think is very much inspired by the Manson the two nights of Manson murder of like you can be home you think you're safe and then all of a sudden You got hours of, you know, of horror ending in death in front of you.

uncontrollable horror I mentioned before and I'll say again the horror movies of the 1970s all these home invasion movies like that becomes a subgenre in horror that I think is very much inspired by the Manson the two nights of Manson murder of like you can be home you think you're safe and then all of a sudden You got hours of, you know, of horror ending in death in front of you.

So like again and again, it was like no surprise to me when it was the opposite of a surprise when Quentin Tarantino, who is just kind of, if nothing else, just like he keeps wanting to make movies about movies, right? Yeah. And he took this most film worthy crime and turned it.

So like again and again, it was like no surprise to me when it was the opposite of a surprise when Quentin Tarantino, who is just kind of, if nothing else, just like he keeps wanting to make movies about movies, right? Yeah. And he took this most film worthy crime and turned it.

So like again and again, it was like no surprise to me when it was the opposite of a surprise when Quentin Tarantino, who is just kind of, if nothing else, just like he keeps wanting to make movies about movies, right? Yeah. And he took this most film worthy crime and turned it.

I mean, I hated the movie, but he turned it into this, you know, even more sensationalistic, you know, I don't want to spoil it for anybody who hadn't seen it, but like he blew it up even more than it already was. Sure. And so that was one of the things, my research, like I couldn't do justice. Like I, at some point I was like, I need to have like a,

I mean, I hated the movie, but he turned it into this, you know, even more sensationalistic, you know, I don't want to spoil it for anybody who hadn't seen it, but like he blew it up even more than it already was. Sure. And so that was one of the things, my research, like I couldn't do justice. Like I, at some point I was like, I need to have like a,

I mean, I hated the movie, but he turned it into this, you know, even more sensationalistic, you know, I don't want to spoil it for anybody who hadn't seen it, but like he blew it up even more than it already was. Sure. And so that was one of the things, my research, like I couldn't do justice. Like I, at some point I was like, I need to have like a,

online searchable index you know like i need somebody with those skills to index every moment that he's mentioned in popular music in film culture in other visual culture sculpture paintings just endless productions