Jeff Passan

But they had someone who was there.

Yeah, it might have been Chapman.

Yeah, that actually...

And let's see, because 2014 he got traded.

Oh, no, it was 16 where he got traded.

Yeah, I think it was Chapman because Chapman wins with... No, Chapman won with the Cubs in 16.

The Yankees traded him, so it was Chapman and Miller that year.

And those two ended up facing off against each other in the World Series.

Regardless...

In order to have somebody in that role, you need someone stable in the closing position.

And the Royals have that in Carlos Estevez until they didn't.

I don't blame you at all for that.

And I think that the best part, like the solace that Royals fans can take from where they are right now and where they're going to be in the future is... And I say this understanding there's no such thing as a pitching prospect.

The arms in their system...

look really good right now.

Like Kendrick Churio has a chance to be special and the Royals offered him this winter for Brendan Donovan.

And that might be one of those trades that the best trade is the best trade they never made.

And on top of that, David Shields looks really good.

And on top of that, Justin Lampkin, who I don't know, you know, a lot of people probably haven't heard of him and he's up at double a already.

And,