Jeff Schoep

That bothered me.

It's like, this is not this noble grand cause that I believed it was.

if it's causing that kind of pain and suffering to other people.

I hate to try everything, and I beat myself up over that a lot, but I kept saying, it's a white civil rights group.

I'm telling every press outlet I'm sitting down with when they're in it, don't call us a Nazi group.

It's a white civil rights organization.

Of course, most of them wouldn't publish that because it is what it is.

But I'm going through these different changes.

I'm having rules put into the organization where the last couple of years they changed from the swastika and the public view to using an old runic symbol, the Odo rune.

Today they switched back.

They use the swastika again.

But I was doing things like that to try to change the image of the group as my own beliefs were shifting.

I was trying to shift that into the party.

And eventually I was like,

Because as a man, I thought, I'm going to fix this.

I got to fix this, this mistake that I made, this terrible movement.

I've got to fix it.

And there's no fixing it.

All I was doing was putting lipstick on a pig, you know, dressing up the Nazi party, trying to make it look pretty.

It still is what it is.