Jeff Schoep

That's really interesting.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, well, they have something called teshuva, which means, like, forgiveness or repentance.

And tikkun olam means to heal the world.

So these were things that were counterintuitive and contrary to everything that I thought I knew about the Jews.

Yeah, so, but it was really bizarre.

So it's like when I speak with kids at schools, you know, I said, you know, you guys remember in elementary school when you had opposite day and your shirts backwards and all that kind of stuff?

I said, that was my life.

Like everything that I thought that I knew about the Jews and the movement, I was an expert on the Jews, the Jewish question, you know?

So you had no negative or positive interactions with Jewish people?

No.

Towards the end of my time when I was involved, I had a few interactions with Jewish people that I knew of.

But before that, no, absolutely not.

Just wouldn't discuss anything with them, wouldn't talk to them, and just felt like they were inherently evil.

Swallowed the whole anti-Semitic –

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

So I had met some embassy people from the country of Cameroon in Africa and they had come out to one of my talks.

And afterwards, you know, they said, you know, it was really fascinating.

And America is really far behind on race relations.