Jeff Schoep
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You know, when we first got here, we didn't realize we were black.
And I was like, wow.
What are you guys talking about?
I said, we got to talk.
I got to understand this.
What do you mean you didn't realize you were black?
And he's like, well, of course we realize we're black, but you see in the United States, you know, or where we're from in Cameroon, we're Cameroonian.
You know, that's who we are.
Like, you know, we know we're black, but he goes, you know, in the United States, it's different.
He says we're treated differently in the United States, even by other black people.
You know, we were treated differently.
So he says, now we know we're black.
I took a minute to wrap my mind around that one.
As they should.
What did it feel like to you?
Well, normally when you escalate, and we call this relational dialogue, and we do talks about this as well.
Oh, so it's a strategy?
It's a strategy, yeah.