Jeff Staple

That is nuts.

Yeah.

Do you have a shoe design you're most proud of?

I mean, it's gotta be the pigeon dunk, you know, like it's, it's the thing.

It's very, it's a blessing to have a shoe that's on the Mount Rushmore of sneaker culture.

You know what I mean?

So I'm very, very proud of that.

It is also a gift in the curse though, because you make something that's so incredible and means so much to the culture that it's,

inevitably everything else by the public will be like compared to that yeah it's almost like if a if a rapper came out with like an all-time incredible legendary album every song and album after that will be compared to that you know um so it is a double-edged sword but it's i'm overall very blessed that like that shoe the nike sb vision dunk is one of the grails yeah

Well, you've done so well at staying relevant because a lot of artists or whatever designers get known for one thing.

Yeah.

But you've just repeatedly have had success since then.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't want to say staying relevant.

I think it's just finding passion.

Yeah.

You know, I think that's what it is.

Like just recently, Artifact, I don't know if you know what NFT has been in the news a lot recently because Benoit, one of the founders passed away.

Oh, I didn't know.