Jeff

Not really, only if we were in private, because they were our secret code names. Sorry. Right?

No one could see. No one could know.

No one could see. No one could know.

Yeah, I don't think it changed it. We maybe became closer just because I was single, right? I had maybe more time. I had time when I wasn't with the girls, when they were with their dad. So it probably deepened our friendship more. Yeah. So there's a little bar called Shenanigans. What?

Yeah, I don't think it changed it. We maybe became closer just because I was single, right? I had maybe more time. I had time when I wasn't with the girls, when they were with their dad. So it probably deepened our friendship more. Yeah. So there's a little bar called Shenanigans. What?

Yeah, I do. So they have karaoke on Saturday nights. And we would go sing karaoke. We would sing Up Where We Belong, which is the theme song from An Officer and a Gentleman. Well, it all comes back to that movie, does it not? The two of you, that was your song. That was our song. That was our song. Can you sing a little bit? Oh, yeah, yeah. Love lift us up where we belong.

Yeah, I do. So they have karaoke on Saturday nights. And we would go sing karaoke. We would sing Up Where We Belong, which is the theme song from An Officer and a Gentleman. Well, it all comes back to that movie, does it not? The two of you, that was your song. That was our song. That was our song. Can you sing a little bit? Oh, yeah, yeah. Love lift us up where we belong.

Where the eagles cry.

Where the eagles cry.

Yeah, yeah. So we were at Shenanigans, had too much to drink, went back to his place, which is a block away. And I was lying on the couch and he was playing guitar. He was teaching himself how to play the guitar from YouTube videos. Also a big Jeff thing, YouTube anything. He's like, there's a YouTube video on that. Actually, there's YouTube. Actually. So he was teaching himself to play guitar.

Yeah, yeah. So we were at Shenanigans, had too much to drink, went back to his place, which is a block away. And I was lying on the couch and he was playing guitar. He was teaching himself how to play the guitar from YouTube videos. Also a big Jeff thing, YouTube anything. He's like, there's a YouTube video on that. Actually, there's YouTube. Actually. So he was teaching himself to play guitar.

And he was playing Blackbird, classic beginning guitar song. And as he was playing and I was laying on the couch in my drunken state, I felt sick. And I started to feel this vibe that like... Oh, my God. Is Jeff going to try to kiss me? Is there going to be like it was, you know, when the air in the room changes. So I quickly got up, bolted to the bathroom.

And he was playing Blackbird, classic beginning guitar song. And as he was playing and I was laying on the couch in my drunken state, I felt sick. And I started to feel this vibe that like... Oh, my God. Is Jeff going to try to kiss me? Is there going to be like it was, you know, when the air in the room changes. So I quickly got up, bolted to the bathroom.

And I'm, you know, then it was the holding the hair and I'm puking.

And I'm, you know, then it was the holding the hair and I'm puking.

I had thought about it only in that my friends had suggested, you know, you're such good friends with Jeff, don't you think? Maybe. And I was always stridently, no, absolutely not. Why? Why? I didn't look at him and think, like, oh, he's so hot. And he was my best friend. And once you make things romantic with somebody, like, it's going to change your friendship, your relationship.

I had thought about it only in that my friends had suggested, you know, you're such good friends with Jeff, don't you think? Maybe. And I was always stridently, no, absolutely not. Why? Why? I didn't look at him and think, like, oh, he's so hot. And he was my best friend. And once you make things romantic with somebody, like, it's going to change your friendship, your relationship.

And I just didn't want to do that. You didn't want to risk it. I didn't want to risk it. But I always had the feeling that I could at any time. I knew that he was game. Even when he was dating somebody, even when he was the most in love, I knew. And I would kind of think, like, I could just snap my fingers and he would drop her for me. I just knew. The glint in your eye. I mean, how did you know?

And I just didn't want to do that. You didn't want to risk it. I didn't want to risk it. But I always had the feeling that I could at any time. I knew that he was game. Even when he was dating somebody, even when he was the most in love, I knew. And I would kind of think, like, I could just snap my fingers and he would drop her for me. I just knew. The glint in your eye. I mean, how did you know?

We had, okay, when I was, so I was very nervous to start dating again and to have sex again with a new person, right? It had been years since I'd been with somebody new. I was very nervous and I went over to his apartment one day and I said, Jeff, we have to have pretend sex and you have to tell me the truth about my body. What does pretend sex mean?