Jefferson Fisher

Now this is the second time we've had the chance to meet and of course we've communicated since.

But what a treasure is for me is I get to talk to somebody who has such a roster of experience and a depth of success in running businesses and somebody who is

a woman and a woman of color and to say, okay, I know that when somebody asks me, a white male, say, how do you say things direct, right?

And I know my perspective is just one.

and I will get comments which are very well received of that wouldn't work for me.

That doesn't work in the, I'm a woman, that's not gonna work for me.

You don't understand what that's like.

And the answer is I do not know what that's like.

That's correct.

And so here I have to me an expert that I couldn't think of who's any more positioned for this kind of advice.

So in your world as a business woman, how do you speak with directness?

No, let's not do that, please.

I think you are.

That is such a quote.

Did you come up with that?

I don't watch what I say, I watch what I do.

Did you just come up with that right now?

Okay.

Okay.

Emma, that is, that is such a killer line.