Jefferson Fisher

Like people will go, oh, I'm not gonna chase this because nobody's doing it for me.

I guess nobody wants to help me.

It's just all me and I'm not gonna waste the time.

And the new thought that you have after you talk about the story is you are the creator of your own career and the responsibility for it is yours too.

And I thought, okay, Emma, all right, Emma, that was good.

It was so good of like, hey, nobody else is going to do that.

And I think a lot of that, and I wanna go into this real quick, is you are the oldest, I believe, of four.

Okay, and you had a single mother.

Okay.

And I'm curious, you know, how much of the mindset that you have, the title of the book has to do with that girl who didn't finish high school, went to work.

I'm the oldest of four, right?

Yeah, I'm the oldest of four.

This is why we're kindred souls.

That's right.

These old souls, right, that you didn't really have, like me, like we didn't really have it.

You didn't really have a childhood.

You know, there's gaps of your life that you had to be the little parent, the little spouse.

You had to take on opportunity.

You had to take on things.

You had to forego other enjoyment for the work that was ahead.