Jefferson Fisher

You're right.

I'm wrong.

That's not going to happen.

You can't just wish for that.

Instead, if I were to say to you,

listen, I'm not here to change your mind, Jay.

This is what I believe.

You hear how just me saying that all of a sudden opens up that curiosity of, well, maybe I do want to change my mind.

I don't really know.

But if I were to say, how can you possibly think that?

You really think that that person is the person you should be voting for?

You think that, and as soon as I get into criticism, the more I tell you that you're wrong, the more convinced you'll be that you're right.

Because most likely, if I want you to change your mind and I say that you're wrong about something, Jay, I'm not just saying you're wrong.

I'm saying that your wife's wrong.

Your dad's wrong.

Your parents are wrong.

Your grandmother is wrong.

That thing that you went to when you were a kid, that was a big crystallizing moment in your life that set your belief system is all wrong.

And it's become part of your identity.

And so instead of me fighting, I think I'm fighting an opinion.