Jefferson Fisher

So don't feel like that is something that you're never gonna have complete full circle on that you're not gonna feel whole about, all right?

So you've done what you need to do.

Two, you don't need their forgiveness for you to also forgive yourself.

And three, when it comes to people who say, well, let's just agree to disagree.

That to me is a little different than let's bygones be bygones.

So I'd see those things as two different, very two different issues.

My

encouragement that I want to give you, Catherine, is you saying this doesn't feel right to me.

I think that's a true feeling.

No, there's a reason why that doesn't feel all the way complete to you and that bygones be bygones is not good enough.

And I agree because that's just going to be something that is unspoken in this relationship.

And so I would be totally open and encouraging of the conversation of...

bygones be bygones is not enough for me.

That's not gonna be something that sits well with me.

There is either gonna be some sort of forgiveness and amends that is complete, or we're gonna understand that this is gonna be a rift and a rupture until you're ready, because there's certain things that are going to take time.

So I don't think you've done anything wrong in wanting to apologize.

I think that's, of course, the bigger move.

I'm not also willing to say truly, Catherine, that them not wanting to accept the gift forgiveness right at that moment is all the way wrong either.

Sometimes forgiveness takes a lot of time.

And there's all things to be said of living in amends and being able to continue to