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And the fact that you would call me to ask for some things to say is not something I take lightly at all.

I can't imagine what you're going through and how painful that must be to not only have loss,

of your daughter's father, but also in some way feeling like you've lost some of your daughter.

She's 21 and she's stealing credit cards and using debit cards and she's causing you pain.

And I know that you love her.

I know that you wouldn't be calling if you didn't.

And

The things I'm going to say and the things that are coming to mind for me are things that I want to send to you in the warmest, most genuine way that I, that I know how, right.

The first is gonna be some tough love by me.

And that is you can't keep offering the credit cards and cards.

That would be to enable that kind of behavior.

And of course, she's shown herself not to be trustworthy of that.

That's not your fault.

What I'm saying is we're gonna have to do some practical things.