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But most importantly, food, food, food, food, food, dude.

Yeah.

Like I just now started showing the runs and stuff like because I think people appreciate seeing the work.

But it's like what was important.

Really?

The way it's not lost in that that running the running is what makes me feel good.

It's fighting the demon.

Right.

The way it's lost whenever I sit down at the dinner table and I like a normal human.

I don't eat seven plates and six desserts.

You know what I mean?

Like that's where it's at.

And that's that it's anytime I used to see guys like Ralphie and I would think it watching, I'd be like, man, when you get to that size, that's a, there's a mental component.

There's something happening there.

There's some trauma attached to it, or there's a story that you're living in, in your mind.

That's just a, you know, your body's just reacting to a pattern.

It's always had that you haven't been able to get it out.

It's there's something you've got to,

Really go in and roll the sleeves up and kind of find it.

I did every kind of thinking back.