Jen Psaki
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They feel like, oh, well, I can call Donald Trump and like I can talk to him and like he has gives me all this access.
And, you know, he calls me and teases me about my interviews or whatever it may be.
And there's no way that doesn't shade how they report things or talk about them, even if it's not conscious.
Now, there are many people who don't do that.
Right.
So it's but it's like it's a very hard thing to to monitor.
I feel like I was reading this interview with or saw it.
I don't remember.
It's all running together with Jeffrey Goldberg.
Right.
That I think he did with Ben Smith, where he talked about how after he reported on Signalgate, Trump was like, you won this one.
Why don't you come see me more?
Right.
And like Jeff Goldberg doesn't give a shit about that.
Right.
He's not going to like change his reporting because Trump is like, come see me.
I don't know that that's true for everybody.
And even if it's not conscious.
And I think that is the thing that's a little tricky.
Yeah.